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  • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    Sure. The early members were authorized, as they had no place to purchase them. They had to make their own. Would God see our earnest efforts as less worthy than theirs? Is there any scripture that says that people should not make their own clothes?

    Of course, altering them or making your own is strictly prohibited by the CHOI. But that bureaucratic document has little to do with a man's relation to his God.
    Are you saying that once a higher law is established, that we should ignore it? Does God have ever increasing standards and expectations of our behaviour? I think the bureaucratic book is not so much a personal relational yardstick with God, but more of a road map that helps us align our will to His.

    If there are 6 ways of doing something, then there is a best way, and a worst way, and I think in our aspirations to become gods ourselves, the best option to the desired effect is what God would have us do. Sure, in the current moment we play fast and loose with blue shirts, taking the Sacrament with the left hand, and handbook parsing, but those are just moments where we can learn the consequences of our own freedom of agency. Eventually we will need to aqui send to the Father, and we come full circle into compliance with his will. And that's when we become like Him, because we act like him. That's the majesty of His plan... we have to conform on our own terms, or we don't. It's up to us, and he only provides words on paper, and a tingly sensation to let us figure it for ourselves.
    Last edited by clackamascoug; 01-28-2014, 01:48 PM.

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    • Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post

      If there are 6 ways of doing something, then there is a best way, and a worst way,.
      That's not necessarily true. If you think the best way to doing this particular thing is to purchase poorly designed underwear from low wage workers creating a design from the 1960's, then great. I just don't think the Lord would care much one way or the other if you made your own. They aren't using holy cloth as far as I'm aware. Nor sacred sewing machines or consecrated needles. "Thou shalt only purchase clothing from the company store" is not a godly injunction I am familiar with.

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      • I was just wondering yesterday if anybody on this board knew someone that had ditched the garments and still remained active in the church? I've seen where people become inactive and still wore their garments but not the other way around. Does activity and garment wearing always go hand in hand.

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        • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
          I was just wondering yesterday if anybody on this board knew someone that had ditched the garments and still remained active in the church? I've seen where people become inactive and still wore their garments but not the other way around. Does activity and garment wearing always go hand in hand.
          I would need a defninition of "active in the church" before I could answer. If active means a Temple Recommend, then the answer is no.

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          • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
            I would need a defninition of "active in the church" before I could answer. If active means a Temple Recommend, then the answer is no.
            Let's count active as attending at least three Sundays a month and holding a job.

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            • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
              I was just wondering yesterday if anybody on this board knew someone that had ditched the garments and still remained active in the church? I've seen where people become inactive and still wore their garments but not the other way around. Does activity and garment wearing always go hand in hand.
              My wife and I saw another LDS couple out on our date night. Pretty much the first thing my wife said was that the other (somewhat active) woman was not wearing her garments. Apparently her top was too low and her shorts too high. It left me wishing I'd paid more attention.
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
              - Goatnapper'96

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              • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                Let's count active as attending at least three Sundays a month and holding a job.
                Then I would guess, yes there have to be some active members who do not wear their G's.

                While not the same as your question, I also know some TR holders who do not wear them when they play golf and the temperature goes above 90.

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                • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                  Then I would guess, yes there have to be some active members who do not wear their G's.

                  While not the same as your question, I also know some TR holders who do not wear them when they play golf and the temperature goes above 90.
                  That's what got me thinking about it. I've started to include golf into my sports activities that are garment free and on a hot day it feels so much better.

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                  • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                    My wife and I saw another LDS couple out on our date night. Pretty much the first thing my wife said was that the other (somewhat active) woman was not wearing her garments. Apparently her top was too low and her shorts too high. It left me wishing I'd paid more attention.
                    Do you live in Kaysville? I believe there is clique to which Ol Port belongs where the women folks sport thongs and lingerie for date nite as a form of fourplay. I do think that if the word gets out about the fourplay there might not be much reason to be sporting G's, however.
                    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                    -General George S. Patton

                    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                    -DOCTOR Wuap

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                    • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                      I was just wondering yesterday if anybody on this board knew someone that had ditched the garments and still remained active in the church? I've seen where people become inactive and still wore their garments but not the other way around. Does activity and garment wearing always go hand in hand.
                      I know of a few active non-garment wearers, including a SIL and BIL. They're non-temple Mormons (their first time through freaked them out and they ditched Gs shortly thereafter).
                      Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                      "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                      • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                        Do you live in Kaysville? I believe there is clique to which Ol Port belongs where the women folks sport thongs and lingerie for date nite as a form of fourplay. I do think that if the word gets out about the fourplay there might not be much reason to be sporting G's, however.
                        Nope, sorry. Don't know that I've ever even stopped in Kaysville.
                        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                        - Goatnapper'96

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                        • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                          Do you live in Kaysville? I believe there is clique to which Ol Port belongs where the women folks sport thongs and lingerie for date nite as a form of fourplay. I do think that if the word gets out about the fourplay there might not be much reason to be sporting G's, however.
                          Port is a swinger?
                          I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                          • When I lived in PHX, it seemed that the majority of my active friends weren't wearing their garments during the summer. Most wore bottoms but rarely tops.

                            My friends here are similar. We hang with 3 couples basically, and all the ladies wear Lulu all day, and the guys don't wear tops on the weekends.

                            Too freaking hot.

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                            • A lot of my divorced female friends ditch the G's on weekends. Doesn't have much to do with rebellion or being a skank. Mostly they just want to wear fashionable clothes and feel sexy for a brief time.

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                              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                                A lot of my divorced female friends ditch the G's on weekends. Doesn't have much to do with rebellion or being a skank. Mostly they just want to wear fashionable clothes and feel sexy for a brief time.
                                and if they get lucky, they don't want anything to get in the way. Maybe, that could be just a guy thing though.

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