LDS Garments: Why I Want Out of This Club

[Jeff Lebowski]

So Mormon Expositor has a new podcast on mormons in the military. They talk about the issue of garements in armed services and one guy says that he used to send in his troop shirts to have the garment simbols silk screen onto the inside of the shirts. He said that some of these shirts had dragons on the back with the words like "Kill" and other military slogans.

I realize that these are exceptions to the rule, but it makes you wonder what are the essential parts of a garment? If it is just the symbols then why not allow people to have a broader array of underwear choices?

Wasn't there a LDS.org column posted recently that said that the garment design was divinely revealed? I would be curious to see that revelation. Based on what I have read, people used to make their own garments and the marks were the only thing was consistent. After a while they decided it might be a good idea to standardize a bit so they asked a sister to come up with a pattern. Now the pattern has far-reaching impact on our culture (bare shoulders = immodest, etc.).

[Goatnapper'96]

So Mormon Expositor has a new podcast on mormons in the military. They talk about the issue of garements in armed services and one guy says that he used to send in his troop shirts to have the garment simbols silk screen onto the inside of the shirts. He said that some of these shirts had dragons on the back with the words like "Kill" and other military slogans.

I realize that these are exceptions to the rule, but it makes you wonder what are the essential parts of a garment? If it is just the symbols then why not allow people to have a broader array of underwear choices?

When I had soul and I was a soul-jer, I bought them at distribution and the pretty much looked like everyone elses except mine were brown. Well I guess mine and Wuaps looked pretty similar! Hah.

I understand that back in that day they did not make a green version, the Marines wore a green t-shirt beneath their woodland camouflage fatigues, and I was told the Marines did in fact mail their green t-shirts to some distribution site where the markings were sewn on and returned to the Marine.

[Joe Public]

I hear it's hot where I'm headed anyway.

If there's a heaven, you'll be there.

Is that doctrine? I don't know that we teach that.

[Donuthole]

Priesthood meeting at 8 am followed by Sunday School at 10 am and Sacrament at 6 pm. Also a return to the one piece garments. We don't suffer enough anymore.

The above comment reminded me of my sad discovery this past weekend.

Dri-Luxe is where it's at for bottoms. You're only punishing yourself with that nasty, uncomfortable waistband on the 100% cotton.

Sadly, the decision makers are apparently anti-comfort and have now done away with the material-covered waistband. All mens' bottoms now have the abrasive elastic waistband. A major downgrade in comfort for some additional cost savings to the Church, no doubt.

[falafel]

The above comment reminded me of my sad discovery this past weekend.



Sadly, the decision makers are apparently anti-comfort and have now done away with the material-covered waistband. All mens' bottoms now have the abrasive elastic waistband. A major downgrade in comfort for some additional cost savings to the Church, no doubt.

Ha, that's funny, as I was going to post about how much I prefer the new waistband to the old fabric-covered one.

The crew-neck g-tops still suck though. I'm sick of the 1.5 inch collar that comes up to my adam's apple.

[SCcoug]

Dri-Luxe is where it's at for bottoms. You're only punishing yourself with that nasty, uncomfortable waistband on the 100% cotton.

Sadly, the decision makers are apparently anti-comfort and have now done away with the material-covered waistband. All mens' bottoms now have the abrasive elastic waistband. A major downgrade in comfort for some additional cost savings to the Church, no doubt.

I just noticed the color change.

[byu71]

This comment reminded me:



Sadly, the decision makers are apparently anti-comfort and have now done away with the material-covered waistband. All mens' bottoms now have the abrasive elastic waistband. A major downgrade in comfort for some additional cost savings to the Church, no doubt.

It has gotten to the point where the discomfort interfers with my ability to go to sleep. I have problem with sleeping anyway and this just makes it worse. I have made the decision to at night sleep in boxers. I hope I won't be accused of not enduring until the end.

[Donuthole]

I just noticed the color change.

Blame the new version of tapatalk. Ever since JL upgraded, Dark Orchid isn't one of the 40 standard tapatalk colors, so it doesn't work with the script I use for color posting.

[Jacob]

Today's Mormons are so subdued compared to their pioneer ancestry. Those old-timeys were better in every way. Not the least of which was refusal to go along with every church policy. IMO, the leading factor in the church going away from long sleeved garment tops and bottoms was the refusal of members to abide. Alteration of the garment was a common "problem" for church leadership and they addressed it not infrequently at conference and in church publications. Those who wore short-sleeved garments, altered themselves, were damned to hell over the pulpit. The design was revealed directly from God. How dare they! Don't wait for an octogenarian to concern himself with minor discomfort from an article of clothing he has been wearing for 60 years without any problem. Change can only come from rebellion by the membership, just like last time.

As Seer Harold B. Lee declared:

“It is not to be thought that every word spoken by the General Authorities is inspired, or that they are moved upon by the Holy Ghost in everything they write. I don't care what his position is, if he writes something or speaks something that goes beyond anything that you can find in the standard church works.”

I await a link to the requirement to wear poorly-designed under garments in the standard church works

[RC Vikings]

It has gotten to the point where the discomfort interfers with my ability to go to sleep. I have problem with sleeping anyway and this just makes it worse. I have made the decision to at night sleep in boxers. I hope I won't be accused of not enduring until the end.

Not only more comfortable but more inviting when your girlfriend comes for a sleep over.

[byu71]

Not only more comfortable but more inviting when your girlfriend comes for a sleep over.

I only date active LDS girls. They have agreed with me that the basic underwear is uncomfortable and so they borrow and sleep in my boxers too. Of course they sleep in the other bedroom.

[TripletDaddy]

Ha, that's funny, as I was going to post about how much I prefer the new waistband to the old fabric-covered one.

The crew-neck g-tops still suck though. I'm sick of the 1.5 inch collar that comes up to my adam's apple.

Would be sweet if they started making a garment turtleneck for colder days or skiing. I'd buy one for the retro vibe.

I have a mix of tops. small scoop for when I am wearing an unbutton collared shirt (never appropriate for white shirts, though), crew for white shirts. My waist doesnt get agitated by fabric, so not sure if I can weigh in on the controversial waistband debate taking place right now in this thread.

[Moliere]

Today's Mormons are so subdued compared to their pioneer ancestry. Those old-timeys were better in every way. Not the least of which was refusal to go along with every church policy. IMO, the leading factor in the church going away from long sleeved garment tops and bottoms was the refusal of members to abide. Alteration of the garment was a common "problem" for church leadership and they addressed it not infrequently at conference and in church publications. Those who wore short-sleeved garments, altered themselves, were damned to hell over the pulpit. The design was revealed directly from God. How dare they! Don't wait for an octogenarian to concern himself with minor discomfort from an article of clothing he has been wearing for 60 years without any problem. Change can only come from rebellion by the membership, just like last time.

As Seer Harold B. Lee declared:


I await a link to the requirement to wear poorly-designed under garments in the standard church works

This is why, if someone tells me the current garment pattern isn't comfortable or doesn't fit right I just tell them to make their own garments. It's not like they are annointed or blessed in some special way. I don't have issues with the current garments, but if I did I'd just buy some FotL shirts or longer boxers to fix the problem.

[clackamascoug]

This is why, if someone tells me the current garment pattern isn't comfortable or doesn't fit right I just tell them to make their own garments. It's not like they are annointed or blessed in some special way. I don't have issues with the current garments, but if I did I'd just buy some FotL shirts or longer boxers to fix the problem.

The question does say "authorized." Are we authorized to make our own garments? I'd like to think so, but don't think so.

[Jacob]

The question does say "authorized." Are we authorized to make our own garments? I'd like to think so, but don't think so.

Sure. The early members were authorized, as they had no place to purchase them. They had to make their own. Would God see our earnest efforts as less worthy than theirs? Is there any scripture that says that people should not make their own clothes?

Of course, altering them or making your own is strictly prohibited by the CHOI. But that bureaucratic document has little to do with a man's relation to his God.