Women never say the prayers in General Conference?

[scottie]

"Dear Heavenly Father, (pause) when we heard Elder Burton's talk on food storage, (pause) (weepily) we were so overcome with joy..."

I'm pretty sure I'm misinterpreting, but I certainly hope you're not making fun of women praying here.

[Rosebud]

I'm feeling very baited by this thread .... true?

Perhaps the real conflict here is what each poster considers worse: women not being allowed to pray in GC or people using this forum to meaninglessly pick on the church. SU and scottie fit into the former category and Indy into the latter. IMO, the first is a larger problem considering that this is just a message board....

[Rosebud]

Someone complaining about some really small detail of the LDS church (in this case Scottie).

Indycoug responding in a 'you have got to be kidding' manner.

Seattleute piling on like a ravenous wolf.

BYU71 somehow tying it in to being a 'true' fan and scheduling weak opponents.

Tripletdaddy defending free speech on the board and being yet again dissapointed in this new revelation. Yet, still his great testimony will get him through.

Goatnappers obligatory response concerning boobs.

Is this what hell will be like, a neverending argument which has to be carried out even though we know everyones stance already?

DDD defending free speech!????? ROTFL!

[TripletDaddy]

Why home in on the poster instead of on his argument? It adds nothing to the discussion and only serves to irritate the person making the argument.

(Note: I have no dog in this thread.)

People choose to become irritated. That is up to them, I suppose.

I wasn't referring to any one poster, but to a group. And I think it does go to the argument. The non-response to a Yes/No question is often indicative of a lack of argument. Indy specifically offered up some fairly emotional (although not illogical) reasoning for his Scottiephobia, which leads me to believe that there is likely some underlying embarrassment coupled with frustration from not being able to adequately explain something as simple as a woman giving a prayer in GC.

By and large, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I was the first person in the thread to wonder why the responses were evasive and off-point. I think your question is better positioned to IndyCoug, as he was the person who responded thusly.

[JohnnyLingo]

I am sorry you are thus abused. I will try to improve my throat jumping choices.

Thank you.

[Rosebud]

Creepy....

Careful...... you never know.....

[LA Ute]

By and large, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I was the first person in the thread to wonder why the responses were evasive and off-point. I think your question is better positioned to IndyCoug, as he was the person who responded thusly.

You may be right about the tree. I was mainly commenting on the practice of responding to a person who is upset by noting that they are upset and suggesting an unflattering reason for their emotion. I have never seen that as an effective approach. (Certainly not with my wife.)

But I am digressing. I have no idea why women don't pray in GC. It might be the same reason why women did not pray in sacrament meeting for many years: A tradition with no basis!

Otherwise I am clueless.

[Non Sequitur]

But I am digressing. I have no idea why women don't pray in GC. It might be the same reason why women did not pray in sacrament meeting for many years: A tradition with no basis!

This might be the most reasonable thing posted in this thread.

[TripletDaddy]

You may be right about the tree. I was mainly commenting on the practice of responding to a person who is upset by noting that they are upset and suggesting an unflattering reason for their emotion. I have never seen that as an effective approach. (Certainly not with my wife.)

But I am digressing. I have no idea why women don't pray in GC. It might be the same reason why women did not pray in sacrament meeting for many years: A tradition with no basis!

Otherwise I am clueless.

It can be an incredibly effective approach, depending on your goal.

Your second paragraph is the thread killer. It is what I was suggesting to IndyCoug earlier. If IndyCoug has such a strong distaste for Scottie's opining nature, and since IndyCoug cannot resist posting in Scottie's threads, then the best approach is to respond as you have responded in your second paragraph. At that point, the bullet is out of the gun and there isn't really much more to say. IndyCoug, watch and learn.

I agree with your final paragraph, as well, btw.

[Indy Coug]

Indy specifically offered up some fairly emotional (although not illogical) reasoning for his Scottiephobia, which leads me to believe that there is likely some underlying embarrassment coupled with frustration from not being able to adequately explain something as simple as a woman giving a prayer in GC.

I honestly don't care enough about this issue to be embarrassed. I stated what my issue is with scottie in this thread and it has everything to do with his repeated nitpicks with the church and nothing to do with whether or not I can defend some allegation of misogyny.

[Indy Coug]

It can be an incredibly effective approach, depending on your goal.

Your second paragraph is the thread killer. It is what I was suggesting to IndyCoug earlier. If IndyCoug has such a strong distaste for Scottie's opining nature, and since IndyCoug cannot resist posting in Scottie's threads, then the best approach is to respond as you have responded in your second paragraph. At that point, the bullet is out of the gun and there isn't really much more to say. IndyCoug, watch and learn.

I agree with your final paragraph, as well, btw.

I think if you really wanted to waste your time, you could see that I resist posting in scottie's threads on numerous occasions.

[TripletDaddy]

I think if you really wanted to waste your time, you could see that I resist posting in scottie's threads on numerous occasions.

You see, LA Ute.

Incredibly effective, depending on your goal.

[LiveCoug]

I'm feeling very baited by this thread .... true?

Perhaps the real conflict here is what each poster considers worse: women not being allowed to pray in GC or people using this forum to meaninglessly pick on the church. SU and scottie fit into the former category and Indy into the latter. IMO, the first is a larger problem considering that this is just a message board....

Which brings me back to my original question: if a woman hasn't prayed in GC, does that have to mean that she is not allowed to pray in GC? Or is it just tradition? I don't know...

[LA Ute]

It can be an incredibly effective approach, depending on your goal.

Your second paragraph is the thread killer. It is what I was suggesting to IndyCoug earlier. If IndyCoug has such a strong distaste for Scottie's opining nature, and since IndyCoug cannot resist posting in Scottie's threads, then the best approach is to respond as you have responded in your second paragraph. At that point, the bullet is out of the gun and there isn't really much more to say. IndyCoug, watch and learn.

I agree with your final paragraph, as well, btw.

Just so I am not guilty of threadicide, I'll add to my statement:

But I am digressing. I have no idea why women don't pray in GC. It might be the same reason why women did not pray in sacrament meeting for many years: A tradition with no basis! If that is so, whether or not this means anything about the church is eminently debatable, and probably not worth debating. It does seem to me to be something that should be changed.

As for my cluelessness, I am proud of it. It means I can learn more at your feet. I learn a lot from the thirty-somethings in my firm, for example.

You see, LA Ute.

Incredibly effective, depending on your goal.

But it is not nice. As the recently appointed CUF Niceness Monitor, I have to comment on such things.

[SoCalCoug]

I honestly don't care enough about this issue to be embarrassed. I stated what my issue is with scottie in this thread and it has everything to do with his repeated nitpicks with the church and nothing to do with whether or not I can defend some allegation of misogyny.

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