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  • originalsocal
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1632

    #1261
    Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post

    If I'm an artist - and some random people on a sports board are talking about me - I'm a success. Art is so subjective that jackalopoes like Jackson Pollock & Andy Warhol are celebrated. Nobody ever said that a Pollock head was too small - or the subject looked stiff.
    Then again most people wouldn't make a cheap copy of a well known painting, insert contemporary faces into it, and then pass it off as "fine art". Sure, some dimwit might slap down $500 for such a thing, but that's on them. You are correct that art is subjective, but that doesn't mean it's good. The reason a Pollock or Warhol are successful is their art is novel. It reminds me of the scene in Good Will Hunting where the Will character points out to a Harvard student that passing off original ideas as your own does not make you smart, it makes you an asshole. Pollock and Warhol might be serving you fries on your way to a ski trip, but at least they were original. So, whatever level of "success" McNaughton has from us discussing his cheap paint-with-numbers political statements, it's not as an artist. He's just a very successful asshole.

    How you like 'dem apples.
    Last edited by originalsocal; 07-23-2021, 02:23 PM.

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    • Commando
      Explosivo
      • Feb 2009
      • 20748

      #1262
      Originally posted by originalsocal View Post

      The again most people wouldn't make a cheap copy of a well known painting, insert contemporary faces into it, and then pass it off as "fine art". Sure, some dimwit might slap down $500 for such a thing, but that's on them. You are correct that art is subjective, but that doesn't mean it's good. The reason a Pollock or Warhol are successful is their art is novel. It reminds me of the scene in Good Will Hunting where the Will character points out to a Harvard student that passing off original ideas as your own does not make you smart, it makes you an asshole. Pollock and Warhol might be serving you fries on your way to a ski trip, but at least they were original. So, whatever level of "success" McNaughton has from us discussing his cheap paint-with-numbers political statements, it's not as an artist. He's just a very successful asshole.

      How you like 'dem apples.



      I was about to just reply by saying that this guy and Jackson Pollock are both artists the same way that Danielle Steele and James Joyce are both authors. But I think your take may be a bit more accurate.
      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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      • clackamascoug
        Banned
        • Dec 2009
        • 9709

        #1263
        Originally posted by originalsocal View Post

        Then again most people wouldn't make a cheap copy of a well known painting, insert contemporary faces into it, and then pass it off as "fine art". Sure, some dimwit might slap down $500 for such a thing, but that's on them. You are correct that art is subjective, but that doesn't mean it's good. The reason a Pollock or Warhol are successful is their art is novel. It reminds me of the scene in Good Will Hunting where the Will character points out to a Harvard student that passing off original ideas as your own does not make you smart, it makes you an asshole. Pollock and Warhol might be serving you fries on your way to a ski trip, but at least they were original. So, whatever level of "success" McNaughton has from us discussing his cheap paint-with-numbers political statements, it's not as an artist. He's just a very successful asshole.

        How you like 'dem apples.
        You're wicked smart.

        Did you ever find a job yet?

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        • Non Sequitur
          Where did I put my bodkin
          • Nov 2008
          • 5773

          #1264
          Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post

          You're wicked smaht.

          Did you ever find a job yet?
          FIFY
          "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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          • originalsocal
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 1632

            #1265
            Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post

            You're wicked smart.

            Did you ever find a job yet?
            Just do my homewahk.

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            • RC Vikings
              Known Heterosexual
              • Nov 2008
              • 8789

              #1266
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              Saw this on Facebook. I not sure it's a McNaughton but it looks like his work.

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              • All-American
                Right, as Usual
                • Nov 2008
                • 15663

                #1267
                Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                231382980_10222598568490987_7748670471478831649_n.jpg
                Saw this on Facebook. I not sure it's a McNaughton but it looks like his work.
                Now we know why Trump was the most pro-gay Republican President ever.
                τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                • clackamascoug
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9709

                  #1268
                  I didn't know Kenny Loggins was a Trumper.

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                  • Commando
                    Explosivo
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20748

                    #1269
                    Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                    231382980_10222598568490987_7748670471478831649_n.jpg
                    Saw this on Facebook. I not sure it's a McNaughton but it looks like his work.
                    lol if Jesus is guiding Trump, I think I might have the wrong Jesus. In order for this picture to make sense, I guess I have to imagine a world where Trump comes to a sudden remembrance of his guilt and is on the cusp of despair when his hippie coke dealer Bob enters the room in a cloud of weed smoke and offers him a bump.
                    "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                    • All-American
                      Right, as Usual
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 15663

                      #1270
                      Originally posted by Commando View Post

                      lol if Jesus is guiding Trump, I think I might have the wrong Jesus. In order for this picture to make sense, I guess I have to imagine a world where Trump comes to a sudden remembrance of his guilt and is on the cusp of despair when his hippie coke dealer Bob enters the room in a cloud of weed smoke and offers him a bump.
                      “Guiding.” Never heard it called that before.
                      τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                      • Jeff Lebowski
                        Corporate lackey for Jesus
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 69674

                        #1271
                        That painting makes me laugh. It kills me to think that someone would consider trump to be a jesus guy.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Commando
                          Explosivo
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 20748

                          #1272
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          That painting makes me laugh. It kills me to think that someone would consider trump to be a jesus guy.
                          That interview when the reporter naively asked him what his favorite scripture is absolutely makes me laugh out loud. Trump is such a bad liar and an unconvincing bullshitter for a guy who has had a lifetime of hard practice.
                          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69674

                            #1273
                            Originally posted by Commando View Post

                            That interview when the reporter naively asked him what his favorite scripture is absolutely makes me laugh out loud. Trump is such a bad liar and an unconvincing bullshitter for a guy who has had a lifetime of hard practice.
                            Exactly. That guy hasn't cracked open a bible in his life.

                            My late mother (bless her heart) was convinced that Trump was a saint. She probably would have shared that painting on her FB feed.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • PaloAltoCougar
                              Semper infra dignitatem
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 16935

                              #1274
                              Originally posted by Commando View Post

                              That interview when the reporter naively asked him what his favorite scripture is absolutely makes me laugh out loud. Trump is such a bad liar and an unconvincing bullshitter for a guy who has had a lifetime of hard practice.
                              You triggered me into taking a trip down memory lane and I re-watched the video of that hilarious exchange. Trump is the smartass kid who never studies but thinks he can BS this way through any question--technically, he can, but only the most uncritical listener can't recognize the vacuity of his answers. Still, he's great at self-marketing within his specific market and knows his fans love that the Bible is his favorite book. Absurd, but then I doubt he's read a book in decades, maybe ever.

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                              • Northwestcoug
                                Cocked and Loaded
                                • May 2011
                                • 18012

                                #1275
                                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

                                You triggered me into taking a trip down memory lane and I re-watched the video of that hilarious exchange. Trump is the smartass kid who never studies but thinks he can BS this way through any question--technically, he can, but only the most uncritical listener can't recognize the vacuity of his answers. Still, he's great at self-marketing within his specific market and knows his fans love that the Bible is his favorite book. Absurd, but then I doubt he's read a book in decades, maybe ever.

                                Sometimes you forget how dumb and slow-footed he is in anything but the most sycophantic interviews. And this is just example one out of a hundred of how embarrassingly unprepared he was for the presidency. Ted can post the most cringe-inducing sound bite from Pelosi or Biden, but Trump is in a class by himself.

                                I'm convinced that my MAGA relatives and friends fully realize just how antithetical Trump's is to their morals. I think they're just tired of losing most societal arguments in today's arena and happy that anyone is 'fighting' for them.
                                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                                - SeattleUte

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