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  • dabrockster
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 11008

    #181
    Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    I think it also shows that Desmond had some kind of influence over Sayid. Before, he told Locke that he essentially had no feelings and was really almost zombie-like. After an encounter with Desmond, he takes one for the team? Doesn't completely make sense unless Desmond told him something or figured out a way to snap him out of it.
    I am hoping that next weeks episode gives us more back story on Desmond's and Sayed conversation...

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    • jay santos
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 13652

      #182
      Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
      Another solid effort by the producers of LOST with last night's episode. We haven't seen one that has moved the plot so far in one hour as that one did for a few episodes now, but given what is coming next week, it makes a little more sense.

      The big take away for me (which I already kind of sensed) was that we will get very few, if any, happily ever afters when it is all said and done. The producers will have resolved all or most of the pertinant story lines, but they very clearly aren't going to allow everyone to ride off into the sunset in doing so.

      We're also back to wondering what the true motives of Widmore are. His rag tag crew is all but wiped out and he made no real effort to stop the losties from taking the sub, so it is clear that he wants the island.

      Meanwhile, Smokey plays a perfect con on Sawyer and the rest of the crew to get them in the sub in order to subsequently blow it up, but Sayid saves them by allowing himself to be blown up. So long Sayid. He also tells Jack a very important message about where Desmond is and that "it's going to be you." Which could mean several different things from Jacob's replacement to the one that will have to make the ultimate sacrifice.

      We then see the end of the Jin and Sun saga. A bit of a sad but fitting end to their journey on the show (at least on the island).

      Should be interesting to see what unfolds over the last 4 hours of the show...and really the last 3 because next week's episode appears to focus on the Jacob/Man in Black back story/relationship. Very interesting!
      Yep, agree with your takes, and another great episode. My take on the "happily ever after" is that we will get that happily ever after, all is resolved, everything feels great, but that it will happen in the flash sideways. The island storyline is brutal with death and sacrifice, but my belief is that the flash sideways is the ultimate ending after everything on the island that needs to happen is done. Locke will get his resolution. He'll reconsider and have Jack fix his legs.

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      • jay santos
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 13652

        #183
        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
        That was a great episode, but I was totally surprised by the ending. A farewell to two characters on the show. I was totally caught off guard.. Kudos to them for keeping that so close to their vest (Or I am just not that obsessed with the show to find such details)..

        I was sad.. The ending was done really well. Sayed gets redemption in the end...
        They're doing a good job keeping info tight and fans are doing a good job not trying to spoil everything. I've been reading and listening to just about everything I can get my hands on and I never get spoilers. The only thing spoilerish is the list of special guest stars in the next episode, for example we knew Libby would be in the last episode but nothing more.

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        • Brian
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 2164

          #184
          Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
          The big take away for me (which I already kind of sensed) was that we will get very few, if any, happily ever afters when it is all said and done. The producers will have resolved all or most of the pertinant story lines, but they very clearly aren't going to allow everyone to ride off into the sunset in doing so.
          However, all three are still alive in the other timeline.
          Sayid might have some legal troubles, but Sun and Jin seem to be in a good place.
          I intend to live forever.
          So far, so good.
          --Steven Wright

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          • UtahDan
            *
            • Nov 2008
            • 14496

            #185
            Originally posted by Brian View Post
            However, all three are still alive in the other timeline.
            Sayid might have some legal troubles, but Sun and Jin seem to be in a good place.
            It will be interesting to see how that other timeline is tied in. Or if it is.

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            • WashingtonCoug
              Monsters like me
              • Jan 2009
              • 1489

              #186
              Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
              It will be interesting to see how that other timeline is tied in. Or if it is.
              That other timeline has got to be tied in.
              "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
              —Abraham Maslow

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              • DrumNFeather
                Invisible Swordsman
                • Nov 2008
                • 8854

                #187
                Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
                That other timeline has got to be tied in.
                I think it'll come down to Jack having to make some kind of choice that allows for the other timeline to continue on, but at the same time people in that timeline are already working to figure out what they're missing out on, so there will be some kind of clash.
                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                • scottie
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5247

                  #188
                  The way Jin's body floated away from Sun's -- maybe it was being pulled away by Lapidus? -- do you wonder if Jin is still alive?

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                  • DrumNFeather
                    Invisible Swordsman
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 8854

                    #189
                    Originally posted by scottie View Post
                    The way Jin's body floated away from Sun's -- maybe it was being pulled away by Lapidus? -- do you wonder if Jin is still alive?
                    Hadn't thought of that...that's interesting. Though I think that there is almost a need to kill of 95% of the characters because it appears we're heading for some kind of ultimate showdown between Jack and smokey.
                    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                    • Brian
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2164

                      #190
                      I wonder if they will show us the Sun/Jin, Sayid reaction to their deaths on the island. The dead people (Charlie, Libby, Daniel) seem to live very close to the veil. It didn't take much for them to be all in. The others seem to take much more to gain awareness.
                      I intend to live forever.
                      So far, so good.
                      --Steven Wright

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                      • myboynoah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 21719

                        #191
                        No one else found it odd that, in essence, Sayid becomes a suicide bomber?
                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • Brian
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2164

                          #192
                          Wow.
                          Wow.
                          Wow......
                          I intend to live forever.
                          So far, so good.
                          --Steven Wright

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                          • fusnik
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4475

                            #193
                            Ummm, ok.

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #194
                              I think I saw this episode on USA at 4PM on a July Saturday once.

                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • DrumNFeather
                                Invisible Swordsman
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 8854

                                #195
                                Well, they said we'd learn more about the island mythology and we certainly did. I think we'll probably see a little more next week or in the finale in regards to the Man in Black (who still doesn't have a name) manifesting himself to Jacob as the smoke monster (moreso then he did).

                                It also helped shed a little light on exactly what widmore is up to. He is obviously aware of the light area on the other side of the wall of the donkey wheel, so that is his end game.

                                I also think that at least for me, it was made clear that Desmond is the only one with the power to stop smokey because of his ability to withstand a blast of the magnitude of whatever must be where the man in black drifted down to.

                                A good, well acted episode by Alison Janey, Mark Pelligrino and Titus Weaver (I think that's his name).

                                It also kind of made me as the viewer look at Jacob in a different light. He came off as much more simple in some ways and much more human in others. It better explains his treatment of Richard when he first got to the island...he wasn't quite the quiet, benevolent figure he ultimately becomes.

                                And, of course, they checked off the Adam and Eve box, so that's one less thing for people to bitch about...and I thought they pulled it off.
                                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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