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  • Originally posted by OrangeUte View Post
    i haven't read beyond page 100 of the second book, but i'm up to speed on the series. i absolutely love the exchanges between Arya and Tywin Lannister. The discussion about Harenhal and the Taegyrian dragons that destroyed it, followed by Tywin telling her she is too smart for her own good was terrific.
    I'm almost done with the second book and dont remember any conversational interactions between Arya and Tywin. I left the book for a period of a few months so my memory may be bad, but that element appears to be unique to the show.

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    • I'm pretty sure that, along with Tyrion Lannister, Arya is the hero of the series so far? Then again it wouldn't surprise me if she was suddenly and inexplicably snuffed.
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      • Originally posted by Commando View Post
        I'm pretty sure that, along with Tyrion Lannister, Arya is the hero of the series so far? Then again it wouldn't surprise me if she was suddenly and inexplicably snuffed.
        Jeez I hope not. She's a cool girl. I can't wait to see where they go with this in the show and see what, if any, interaction she and Tywin have with each other in the books.

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        • Originally posted by Commando View Post
          I'm pretty sure that, along with Tyrion Lannister, Arya is the hero of the series so far? Then again it wouldn't surprise me if she was suddenly and inexplicably snuffed.
          Yes. That would be hard to take.

          Question for those of you who have read the books: How is it that the wall keeps the Wildlings in the north? Seems like even a crude boat or canoe could get around it no problem.
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          • Originally posted by OrangeUte View Post
            Jeez I hope not. She's a cool girl. I can't wait to see where they go with this in the show and see what, if any, interaction she and Tywin have with each other in the books.
            She has no interaction with Tywin in the books. She was the cup bearer of Roose Bolton at Harrenhall in the books. Future events require some character development of Roose but I like this departure from the book.
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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Yes. That would be hard to take.

              Question for those of you who have read the books: How is it that the wall keeps the Wildlings in the north? Seems like even a crude boat or canoe could get around it no problem.
              The books note that the seas are particularly rough in the north but that wildlings attempt to go around from time to time. There are castles on the wall positioned on the coast (Eastwatch is one I think) There is an event in the books that supports the difficulty the wildlings have in going around the wall by sea. I am not sure if it will make the series though.
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              • Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                She has no interaction with Tywin in the books. She was the cup bearer of Roose Bolton at Harrenhall in the books. Future events require some character development of Roose but I like this departure from the book.
                Who is Roose Bolton?
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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Who is Roose Bolton?
                  One of the Lords of the North. He is the Lord that told Rob he would send his bastard to retake Winterfell. In the books the Boltons have an expanded role in the future, but given the way that Theon and Winterfell have been told thus far in the series, I am beginning to wonder if they are going to leave the Boltons on the sidelines.

                  Spoiler for Bolton spoiler for those that have read the books:
                  Roose Bolton's bastard son plays such a huge role in the future. I can't believe that they have not introduced the Bastard as Reek yet. It was Reek's idea to stage the murder of the Stark boys. Reek's betrayal of Theon at Winterfell as well as Theon's eventual transformation into Reek at the hand of the Bastard is a pretty big part of the future story.

                  I like that Arya has been the cup bearer of Twyin. I think it is an improvement to the story, but the books give some insight into the Boltons when Ayra is the cup bearer for Lord Bolton. The Boltons are a really effed up group of people.
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                  • Couldn't stay interested in tonight's episode. Mpfunk reports they're bleeding into the third book of the series now. Here's hoping a solid season doesn't start to fizzle out towards the end . . .
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                    • Originally posted by Mrs. Funk View Post
                      Couldn't stay interested in tonight's episode. Mpfunk reports they're bleeding into the third book of the series now. Here's hoping a solid season doesn't start to fizzle out towards the end . . .
                      It was a good episode and is setting up the final 2 episodes, which will include a huge battle scene. I don't have a problem with the books overlapping. The LOTR movies did the same thing. It has to be done sometimes. I'm totally digging this season.

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                      • Originally posted by OrangeUte View Post
                        It was a good episode and is setting up the final 2 episodes, which will include a huge battle scene. I don't have a problem with the books overlapping. The LOTR movies did the same thing. It has to be done sometimes. I'm totally digging this season.
                        Oh, this season has been great. And believe it or not, I'm not a blood and guts kinda gal. And you are right. It's a better episode than I gave it credit for last night. A lot of important foundation, even if that meant the characters spent most of the episode standing around talking. I think I was tired and easily distracted. Plan to rewatch it today.


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                        • Originally posted by OrangeUte View Post
                          It was a good episode and is setting up the final 2 episodes, which will include a huge battle scene. I don't have a problem with the books overlapping. The LOTR movies did the same thing. It has to be done sometimes. I'm totally digging this season.
                          lets hope they actually show a battle this time.

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                          • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                            lets hope they actually show a battle this time.
                            So do I. My understanding is that they will. That the after battle scenes to this point were a way to save money so that justice can be done to the battle of Blackwater Bay.

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                            Also, I've heard that Tyrion receives a nasty facial wound in the books during the battle. I hope they omit this from the HBO version. Not sure if the wound is an important plot point but I say leave Peter Dinklage's face alone - his mug is on the cover of Rolling Stone mag!
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                            • I wish Robb Stark's new girlfriend was instead cast as the wilding girl taking care of the little Stark boys.
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                              • In other news, Sean Bean dies. Frequently.

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