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  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

    Noted, and will pass. Has anyone watched American Primeval? It's about Jim Bridger, BY, the U.S. Army, and various Native American tribes with, I'm told, a LOT of bloodshed, include Mountain Meadows. Not sure I want to invest the time, but I'd be interested in others' thoughts.
    Watched it.. Not worth the time. Felt high level conspiracy movie. Brigham Young being played by the weirdo guy from SOA didn’t help..

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

      I have noticed a lot of people on X saying that after they watched the series, they hate the mormons even more and want to go to war with us. Other people saying things like "I always thought mormons were nice people. I was wrong". Etc.

      Historical consultant for the series was Lindsay Hansen Park. Her prior project was Under the Banner of Heaven. Ultra-woke ex-mo feminist activist. A quick perusal of her X feed will tell you all you need to know.

      I am going to pass on this one.
      I saw that John Dehlin endorsed it as "historically accurate portrayal" of early Mormon history. I keep trying to watch it, but I fall asleep pretty easily these days.

      Lindsay Hansen Park is not all that bad. At least, she wasn't a decade ago. haha.
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      • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

        Noted, and will pass. Has anyone watched American Primeval? It's about Jim Bridger, BY, the U.S. Army, and various Native American tribes with, I'm told, a LOT of bloodshed, include Mountain Meadows. Not sure I want to invest the time, but I'd be interested in others' thoughts.
        I watched it and enjoyed it, but I don't get offended by the unfavorable depiction (even if inaccurate and one sided perspective) of the Mormon settlers and Nauvoo legion. Its mostly a story of a woman on the run who is being helped by an adopted white son of the Shoshone. Its set in the backdrop of the strife between the Mormons, the US Government and native tribes, but I view the strife as more of a foil to tell a brutal fictional story than anti-Mormon propaganda. I can understand why Mormons don't like it though. It wasn't fair and balanced and was filled with historical inaccuracies mingled with nuggets of truth.
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        • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
          Carry-On won't replace Die Hard as a great Christmastime action movie but it's an entertaining and fast-paced thriller. With Taran Egerton in a Liam Neeson/Tom Cruise-type role (his sprints through LAX are an homage to Cruise) and Jason Bateman doing some nice bad guy work here, it's a fun popcorn movie for couch potatoes. Its preposterousness (and it's very preposterous) is part of its charm. Mrs. PAC didn't care for it, but it gets thumbs up from me. And there's a car crash sequence that's done amazingly well.

          Looking over the most recent posts here I wonder if Funk and I are the only ones chilllin' with Netflix (albeit not together, it must be said).
          Our family really enjoyed this over the Christmas break.
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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            I have noticed a lot of people on X saying that after they watched the series, they hate the mormons even more and want to go to war with us. Other people saying things like "I always thought mormons were nice people. I was wrong". Etc.

            Historical consultant for the series was Lindsay Hansen Park. Her prior project was Under the Banner of Heaven. Ultra-woke ex-mo feminist activist. A quick perusal of her X feed will tell you all you need to know.

            I am going to pass on this one.
            Oh Jeff. Not you too!

            I didn't think Under the Banner of Heaven was particularly good, except for one single scene in the last episode. The one where Andrew Garfield's character is in the car reading a book about Mormon history, and then having his faith crisis. I don't know if she had a hand in directing that scene, but man it captured the gravity of a faith crisis very well.

            Her ultra-woke ex-mo feminist activist leanings aside, she is a decent amateur historian and knows how to tell history.

            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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            • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

              Oh Jeff. Not you too!

              I didn't think Under the Banner of Heaven was particularly good, except for one single scene in the last episode. The one where Andrew Garfield's character is in the car reading a book about Mormon history, and then having his faith crisis. I don't know if she had a hand in directing that scene, but man it captured the gravity of a faith crisis very well.

              Her ultra-woke ex-mo feminist activist leanings aside, she is a decent amateur historian and knows how to tell history.
              Oh NWC. Not you too!

              McKay Coppins has an excellent essay on all the problems with Under the Banner of Heaven.

              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...monism/661279/

              Under the Banner of Hulu

              A buzzy new true-crime series advances an old, insidious idea—that Mormons are a threat to the American project.
              By McKay Coppins

              Give this to Under the Banner of Heaven, the buzzy true-crime miniseries that recently concluded its run on FX and Hulu: It wastes little time in getting to the point. Minutes into the first episode, Detective Jeb Pyre is interviewing Allen Lafferty in a Utah jail cell. Allen’s wife and daughter have just been brutally murdered by fundamentalist Mormon zealots, and in his grief and anger he unloads on the well-meaning Latter-day Saint detective.

              “If you really still believe your God is love, then you don’t know who you are, brother,” he tells Pyre. “This faith, our faith, breeds dangerous men.”

              This idea, that Mormonism is at heart an oppressive and violent religion whose mainstream adherents are ever perched on the brink of radicalization, runs through the series—and the show commits to its thesis. Grisly murder scenes are interwoven with flashbacks to early Mormon history. Modern Church leaders are Scooby-Doo villains who monologue about “the communists at the NAACP” and make menacing threats to police detectives. Even the most benign images of Mormon life—a little girl praying; a family reunion—are scored with ethereal synths and ominous woodwinds to make sure that viewers know these, too, are sinister. Under the Banner of Heaven is one of the most openly hostile treatments of a minority religious group to appear in popular American entertainment this century. It is also an unqualified hit.
              Maybe it gave you some kind of validation. If so, that is kind of sad.
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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                Oh NWC. Not you too!

                McKay Coppins has an excellent essay on all the problems with Under the Banner of Heaven.

                https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...monism/661279/



                Maybe it gave you some kind of validation. If so, that is kind of sad.


                I didn't think it was a good movie, and I said that!

                If you saw it and remember the one particular scene I'm talking about, that did a really good job of how faith crises feel. That's all I said about the movie.


                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                - SeattleUte

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                • Andrew Garfield played early 80s Mormon dad really well, IMO. Maybe because I already know the stories of the Laffertys (and the LeBarons), but I wasn’t offended with the obvious ties to BY’s blood atonement principle.
                  Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                  "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                  • Just watched "The Program" on Netflix.

                    Why are these things always created and run by Mo's? Terrible.

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                    • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                      Just watched "The Program" on Netflix.

                      Why are these things always created and run by Mo's? Terrible.
                      Narvin is a weird guy.

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                      • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                        Narvin is a weird guy.
                        That is putting in mildly.

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                        • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

                          That is putting in mildly.
                          I great guy with whom I used to play music was somehow involved in Narvins inital forays into the reform school business. This is in the early to mid nineties. That's when I got to meet Narvin. He gave off a weird vibe even back then.

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                          • Watched The Founder about Ray Kroc, the "founder" of McDonalds. I thought it would be some kind of hagiography. Boy was I wrong. Super interesting story.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              Watched The Founder about Ray Kroc, the "founder" of McDonalds. I thought it would be some kind of hagiography. Boy was I wrong. Super interesting story.
                              I enjoyed that one, too.
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                              • I haven't seen it mentioned here. We watched A Man on the Inside. I really liked it. From the guy that did The Good Place and other great shows. It was sad and funny and was perfect for what I needed.

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