Breaking Bad

[scottie]

Not following you. How would that matter? What other kind of kids could it be?

Just speculating on who might have painted that inside the house, maybe ruling out it being something done by random vandals (former chemistry students? who knows) vs. not random--if it was boarded up/locked up, then less likely it was random.

[Commando]

Just speculating on who might have painted that inside the house, maybe ruling out it being something done by random vandals (former chemistry students? who knows) vs. not random--if it was boarded up/locked up, then less likely it was random.

Eh I'm skeptical, too. You have random kids skating in the pool out back. It could have been taped off as part of the huge police investigation/manhunt that likely kicked off right after The Phone Call, or abandoned and then consequently boarded up and then naturally broken into and vandalized later as kids will do.

[Commando]

Not a chance. You think none of those folks ever visit the lab?

Maybe, but it's clear that Todd has run of the roost. And as pointed out by JS, he sure was secretive about his motives for keeping Jesse around, wasn't he? He basically just promised to interrogate him and then execute him but didn't quite do that.

[ewth8tr]

Here's a cool interview with the writer and director of last night's episode.

The writer puts to rest any doubts about Walt's motivations on the phone call and if Skyler realized what he was doing.

Walley-Beckett: I personally feel like it wasn’t open to interpretation. I would hope that people got that it was an absolute ploy on Walt’s part. It is the family-man part of Walt playing the part of Heisenberg to exonerate Skyler. I was hoping that the process of the lie and the subterfuge would be clear and that viewers would be with Skyler in their understanding. When we first hear Walt, we think he’s gone full Heisenberg. It’s outrageous and horrible and abusive what he’s saying! But then we start to put the pieces together as Skyler does, and I was hoping people would sort of be traveling that journey with her.

Another interesting revelation is that the baby asking for her Mom wasn't scripted, she just started saying it and they ran with it.

http://www.vulture.com/m/2013/09/rian-johnson-moira-walley-beckett-breaking-bad-ozymandius-interview.html

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[scottie]

Here's a cool interview with the writer and director of last night's episode.

The writer puts to rest any doubts about Walt's motivations on the phone call and if Skyler realized what he was doing.



Another interesting revelation is that the baby asking for her Mom wasn't scripted, she just started saying it and they ran with it.

http://www.vulture.com/m/2013/09/rian-johnson-moira-walley-beckett-breaking-bad-ozymandius-interview.html

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How great would a documentary or bonus feature on the DVD set be that gave behind the scenes access into their writing meetings.

[Commando]

How great would a documentary or bonus feature on the DVD set be that gave behind the scenes access into their writing meetings.

You should check out the insiders podcast where Vince Gilligan sits in with the writer of the given episode and they share little tidbits of the process. It's pretty fascinating.

[MarkGrace]

This is 100% clear. What I'm not so sure about is if Skylar recognized it and responded in kind.

She absolutely did. I think art is exactly right when he says her "I'm sorry" was her legitimately saying sorry.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Another interesting revelation is that the baby asking for her Mom wasn't scripted, she just started saying it and they ran with it.

Well that answers my question.

[UVACoug]

bump after seeing Commando's post. I don't know the answer, but I'm curious why he was secretive initially about his reason for wanting Jesse.

He may have knew Walt would not be alright with Jesse cooking.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Anybody watch Talking Bad last night? Guest were Dean Norris and Bill Hader. About halfway through they were talking about the Walter White character and they had an exchange where all three of them (two guests and the host) were mocking crazy fans who are on "Team Walt" and are "enablers" who are still rooting for him to get away with it and "will make excuses to rationalize Walt's behavior no matter what evil act he performs" (going from memory here). Discussed the scene where Walt let Jane choke on her vomit. They also referenced Gilligan's puzzlement at the phenomenon and how he using the last season to punish such fans. Ha.

I wish I could find a transcript but there doesn't seem to be one online. I did find this set of comments from Dean Norris however:

The show is a fascinating morality Rorschach. When you watch episodes, are you rooting for Walt or against him?
I love watching his character, but I don't root for him, no. I find it amazing that someone could root for a sick, twisted child-killer. Cooking meth is one thing, killing cartel members who are after you and your family is another thing, but when I saw him let Jane die, that really changed my opinion of him. And then he tries to kill that little boy [Brock] with the Lily of the Valley. It was like, "Oh, this guy needs to go." Rooting for a child-killer, I think it says something about you. [Laughs] So if it's a Rorschach test, I'd like to see what a psychologist would say about someone who would root for a child-killer.

Here's my theory: most of us, in our day-to-day lives, are like Skyler, or Jesse or maybe Hank – primarily decent. But we fantasize about being Walt.
I think that's true. That's the whole anti-hero thing we've got going, starting with The Sopranos and The Shield and right through to Don Draper, Jon Hamm's character [on Mad Men]. We fantasize about having the power and the balls to do things that people wouldn't do, to be reckless, to be morality-free, to do whatever we want. That's what Walt gets: from being a milquetoast high school teacher, with no power or respect, he becomes a powerful guy. I understand that. I don't know that Tony Soprano ever killed a kid, though. And I'm not sure if Michael Chiklis ever did on The Shield. That's psychopathic. Certain things cross a line. And I don't know how you root for a psychopath. People overlook that, because when I bring it up to them, they're like "Oh, yeah, there's that." [Laughs] Yeah, there is that. It's kind of a big, important point.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...g-bad-20130912

Kind of fun to get to know the actors playing these characters. Norris is a Harvard grad. Very bright guy and he seems to have a good sense of humor. He was wearing a Shraderbrau t-shirt.

[Flystripper]

Anybody watch Talking Bad last night? Guest were Dean Norris and Bill Hader. About halfway through they were talking about the Walter White character and they had an exchange where all three of them (two guests and the host) were mocking crazy fans who are on "Team Walt" and are "enablers" who are still rooting for him to get away with it and "will make excuses to rationalize Walt's behavior no matter what evil act he performs" (going from memory here). Discussed the scene where Walt let Jane choke on her vomit. They also referenced Gilligan's puzzlement at the phenomenon and how he using the last season to punish such fans. Ha.

I wish I could find a transcript but there doesn't seem to be one online. I did find this set of comments from Dean Norris however:



http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...g-bad-20130912

Kind of fun to get to know the actors playing these characters. Norris is a Harvard grad. Very bright guy and he seems to have a good sense of humor. He was wearing a Shraderbrau t-shirt.

Weird he would repeat the child killer thing. He let Jane die. She was not a kid. He did not try and kill Brock.

[clackamascoug]

What kid did he kill? Jane killed herself, Brock was never in danger of dying, and the motorcycle kid was killed by Todd. Walt only killed people who were "fair targets" because they had a skin in his game. Walt has plenty of good left in his tank, as we will see when he saves Jesse.

Rewatched it tonight. Not one screen second was wasted. Very rare when TV is perfect.

[MarkGrace]

I have no idea what he's talking about with the child killer stuff.

[ERCougar]

This is such a stupid argument.
The Gilligan and co commentary on this point is getting old and heavy handed. Just let the show speak for itself.

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[jay santos]

It's funny Dean Norris doesn't even know his own show calling him a baby killer.

The "punishing the audience" is clearly shtick. I'm over it. Gilligan is saying one thing and doing another. Walt has made decision after decision this last half season to choose morality over personal benefit. Others around him are not. Skylar, Hank, Lydia, Todd, Marie, etc. Don't overreact guys. I'm not saying Walt is some kind of moral compass or hero. But his arc is going almost completely opposite of what you guys were predicting before the last half season.