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Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View PostI know you're not one to get tripped up by literal definitions of words, but that seems like a hell of a lot of sunlight for "the last gasp of dusk." Forgive me.
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The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I love that shot SF. I'm curious what your camera settings were. PDx is a hard temple to photograph (the one time I took photos at my nephews wedding). I struggled to get a good photo of the bride and groom and the whole temple due to the relatively small temple grounds and the height of the spires. It seemed I was either cutting off Moroni or shooting at an angle that made the couple look 10 feet tall.Originally posted by swampfrog View PostHDR with some artistic license.

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Sounds like it's time for HFNW to visit the temple againOriginally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostIs that portland?
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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Well look at how close his camera is to the ground.Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostI love that shot SF. I'm curious what your camera settings were. PDx is a hard temple to photograph (the one time I took photos at my nephews wedding). I struggled to get a good photo of the bride and groom and the whole temple due to the relatively small temple grounds and the height of the spires. It seemed I was either cutting off Moroni or shooting at an angle that made the couple look 10 feet tall.
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? How can you tell how close to the ground it is? With such a very wide angle lens it is hard to say, but it looks to m like it might be around chest or even shoulder high. Am I missing something?Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostWell look at how close his camera is to the ground.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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I agree with you on the height, relative to the statues, but maybe Katy is thinking swampfrog's avatar is a selfie. ;-)Originally posted by creekster View Post? How can you tell how close to the ground it is? With such a very wide angle lens it is hard to say, but it looks to m like it might be around chest or even shoulder high. Am I missing something?
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Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostI love that shot SF. I'm curious what your camera settings were. PDx is a hard temple to photograph (the one time I took photos at my nephews wedding). I struggled to get a good photo of the bride and groom and the whole temple due to the relatively small temple grounds and the height of the spires. It seemed I was either cutting off Moroni or shooting at an angle that made the couple look 10 feet tall.This was shot with an ultra-wide lens. 10mm on a crop sensor. Equivalent in some respects to 16mm on a full-frame sensor. Art is right in that getting the full temple into a shot on these grounds is difficult with even a typical wide angle lens. Shooting relatively non-distorted human subjects with an ultra-wide is tricky, but not impossible. You have to keep all of the people away from the edges, if the frame is divided into a 4x4 grid, keep the human subjects roughly in the middle four squares. The closer to the center, the less distorted they will be. You have to accept that the human subjects will be relatively small in the frame.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostWell look at how close his camera is to the ground.
As Katy mentioned, shooting height is also critical. I'm not really low to the ground, but with respect to that first corner of the reflection pool, I'm probably 3 to 4 feet above that, with the camera tilted just slightly up. Much lower than I would typically be shooting hand-held on my feet (where my eyes are at just under 6 feet).
The real trick is to find a position (distance, angle, and height) where you can have the subjects in the middle area of the frame, get the whole temple in the picture, and find a framing where the distorted edges are at least acceptable, especially in the foreground. In this case I chose to meticulously embrace the symmetry of the reflection pool, so the distortions from the wide angle lens don't detract from the overall image. I ended up choosing to cut the corners off because not doing that left the nativity scene too small. I do have some shots including the corners, but I didn't like them as much. A tripod is essential to getting it exactly right and holding the camera fixed in that position. Using live view is also very helpful. I tried a variety of heights and some slightly off center also.
Good luck getting a bride and groom to wait patiently why you try all of these different options! A good wedding photographer that can work through this quickly is worth the price.
As for other settings, this was shot at f/8, focus was on the center spire. It's an HDR composite of 3 images of varying shutter speeds all shot at ISO 100.
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That is impressive - both the preparation and the picture. Thanks for explaining how you did it.Originally posted by swampfrog View PostThis was shot with an ultra-wide lens. 10mm on a crop sensor. Equivalent in some respects to 16mm on a full-frame sensor. Art is right in that getting the full temple into a shot on these grounds is difficult with even a typical wide angle lens. Shooting relatively non-distorted human subjects with an ultra-wide is tricky, but not impossible. You have to keep all of the people away from the edges, if the frame is divided into a 4x4 grid, keep the human subjects roughly in the middle four squares. The closer to the center, the less distorted they will be. You have to accept that the human subjects will be relatively small in the frame.
As Katy mentioned, shooting height is also critical. I'm not really low to the ground, but with respect to that first corner of the reflection pool, I'm probably 3 to 4 feet above that, with the camera tilted just slightly up. Much lower than I would typically be shooting hand-held on my feet (where my eyes are at just under 6 feet).
The real trick is to find a position (distance, angle, and height) where you can have the subjects in the middle area of the frame, get the whole temple in the picture, and find a framing where the distorted edges are at least acceptable, especially in the foreground. In this case I chose to meticulously embrace the symmetry of the reflection pool, so the distortions from the wide angle lens don't detract from the overall image. I ended up choosing to cut the corners off because not doing that left the nativity scene too small. I do have some shots including the corners, but I didn't like them as much. A tripod is essential to getting it exactly right and holding the camera fixed in that position. Using live view is also very helpful. I tried a variety of heights and some slightly off center also.
Good luck getting a bride and groom to wait patiently why you try all of these different options! A good wedding photographer that can work through this quickly is worth the price.
As for other settings, this was shot at f/8, focus was on the center spire. It's an HDR composite of 3 images of varying shutter speeds all shot at ISO 100.
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Well when I can plainly see that it's the Portland temple and HFN is asking which one is it, there's something wrong!Originally posted by clackamascoug View PostI dunno why that struck me as funny. NWC busting HFNW's chops about his temple attendance."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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I am lusting after a ZhiYun Smooth Gimbal II for Christmas. $330 List. Sigh.
https://www.amazon.com/Zhiyun-Z1-Smo...hiyun+smooth+2
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I assumed it was but there are a couple that look the exact same. I also didn't realize swampfrog was a great PNWer.Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostWell when I can plainly see that it's the Portland temple and HFN is asking which one is it, there's something wrong!Get confident, stupid
-landpoke
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