Is Utah anything more than a commuter school w/ a good med school?

[NorthwestUteFan]

I would like to see more applications for pain management come out of my old professor, B. Olivera's work on using natural toxins as painkillers. They just numb the nerves, without a residual systemic high. I would have invested in that. And somebody else was supposed to be close to developing an inoculation against prostate cancer. Perhaps they will perfect that one before 1/3 of the men on this board get it.

Discovering the BRCA (breast cancer gene) might have been good for society too. But then again I just went to a lousy commuter school so maybe I'm just dazzled by shiny objects.

[myboynoah]

I turned down a scholarship from BYU.

PU did as well. Anybody else?

[Viking]

I would like to see more applications for pain management come out of my old professor, B. Olivera's work on using natural toxins as painkillers. They just numb the nerves, without a residual systemic high. I would have invested in that. And somebody else was supposed to be close to developing an inoculation against prostate cancer. Perhaps they will perfect that one before 1/3 of the men on this board get it.

Discovering the BRCA (breast cancer gene) might have been good for society too. But then again I just went to a lousy commuter school so maybe I'm just dazzled by shiny objects.

To the u's credit, they diagnosed my neuralgia and got me on the right meds (neurontin), something that dozens of docs around the country couldn't get right

[hostile]

I would like to see more applications for pain management come out of my old professor, B. Olivera's work on using natural toxins as painkillers. They just numb the nerves, without a residual systemic high. I would have invested in that. And somebody else was supposed to be close to developing an inoculation against prostate cancer. Perhaps they will perfect that one before 1/3 of the men on this board get it.

Discovering the BRCA (breast cancer gene) might have been good for society too. But then again I just went to a lousy commuter school so maybe I'm just dazzled by shiny objects.

To the u's credit, they diagnosed my neuralgia and got me on the right meds (neurontin), something that dozens of docs around the country couldn't get right

My next door neighbor was recently diagnosed with a rare type of neurogenic pain syndrome similar to Parsonage-Turner syndrome (Brachial plexus neuritis). This occured after he had undergone 2 cervical spine surgeries for presumed disc herniation but which failed to provide any improvement in symptoms. He was at the point where the only way he could function was to have his wife (an RN) give him several lidocaine injections throughout the day. Anyway, after being diagnosed and referred to a pain managment specialist, he had a pain pump implanted which injected cone snail toxin around the nerves and was finally able to get some relief. I think this is an application of what Dr. Olivera was working on; as I recall he was looking specifically at cone snail toxins when I was in undergrad and had him for biochemistry.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Yes, cone snail toxins. I am glad to see a practical application in use.

When did you take Todo's class? PM me. I have a story from that one.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Mbn, I had a partial scholarship. I was just barely 18 so I opted to stay at my parents house and save money for my mission.

[LA Ute]

PU did as well. Anybody else?

I did, and as I've said before I had a very good experience during my two semesters at BYU. It was an important part of my life.

[MarkGrace]

I always thought commuter school referenced not just the fact that there is little on campus housing requiring little of the college experience, but also that most of the enrollment consisted of locals. In other words, it's not a destination school that attracts many from out of state.

The catch there, though, is that state schools are designed to attract state kids. They get funding from taxpayers, so the implication is that they're going to educate more state/local kids. That's why private schools have more leeway in accepting out-of-state students.

The other factor is that urban schools like uw or utah are naturally going to attract more commuters than less populated areas. For example, I would guess there are a lot more commuters at the uw than wazzu, but that doesn't make wazzu more of a destination school. If you're going to school in pullman, where the heck are going to commute from?

[Color Me Badd Fan]

What are you looking for? A link to my opinion? It's a handful of posts above.

I think he's confused with the distinction between living a few blocks from campus around other students and living with your parents in Sandy and driving 20 miles up I15 to class.

[Jeff Lebowski]

OK, who's the wise guy? Type in www.byurejects.com into a browser and watch what happens.

[NorthwestUteFan]

OK, who's the wise guy? Type in www.byurejects.com into a browser and watch what happens.

JL, this is the type of thread to which I referred the other day as football season bringing out the inner asshole in otherwise decent folk. FTR.

Also FTR, most of the disparaging comments come from people who spent very little of their adult lives, beyond school, in Utah.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Btw, the BYU selectivity thing is a fairly recent phenomenon. Getting into BYU in 1985 is a wholly different thing from getting into BYU in 2011 or even 1995 for that matter. Something happened in that period of time. I have my theories. I think the Lds church experienced a baby boom like the rest of the country in the late 40s through the 50s and these kids in turn created a ton of kids in the 1970s. My oldest brother was born in 1968, he was born at a time when the older boomers were just beginning to have kids. By the time I came along in the late 70s, the wave of kids coming from LDS boomers was in full swing.

The second thing that happened was that more LDS people lived outside the state of Utah and their kids were coming of college age. When my dad and his family moved to California in the early 50s, there was one or two wards in town. When I was growing up in the same town, there were four stakes.

Third, I think BYU's success in sports from the late 70s through the early 90s made it more of a destination school for a lot of out of Utah Lds kids. An increase in the number of applications to the University of Miami coincided with its success in football. I think something similar happened for BYU. I know at the local chapter of the Cougar Club included a lot of people that weren't BYU grads. The church affiliation and success on the field created a lot fans that didn't actually attend the school. In the process though, they created the desire in their kids to attend the school.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I think he's confused with the distinction between living a few blocks from campus around other students and living with your parents in Sandy and driving 20 miles up I15 to class.

So you went to byu for the night life. Got it.

Some of us worked two jobs to pay for tuition and working enough to pay for rent meant not having enough time to study for that extra difficult class. Living in my parents' basement certainly wasn't as much fun, but life is hard sometimes.

[Jeff Lebowski]

JL, this is the type of thread to which I referred the other day as football season bringing out the inner asshole in otherwise decent folk. FTR.

Also FTR, most of the disparaging comments come from people who spent very little of their adult lives, beyond school, in Utah.

FTR, I didn't think this thread was that terrible. We have much worse stuff going on in other threads.

And FTR, football season is still a glorious time. Lighten up and enjoy it.

[NorthwestUteFan]

This thread swung back to the OK side of the spectrum, but it started out brutal. I do enjoy the season and appreciate the comeraderie here, but reverse the situation and you would be ticked.