Is Utah anything more than a commuter school w/ a good med school?

[beefytee]

The U of U pretty much invented computer graphics.

Donald Sutherland is considered the originator of much of the technology and founded the company that is right by campus: http://www.es.com/.

The professor who I worked for at BYU and got his PhD from Utah like to claim that Gouraud was his TA one semester and he was Phong's TA the nest.

Ed Catmull of Pixar fame (not to mention Catmull-Rom Splines and Catmull Clark subdivision surfaces) is also a product of Utah from that time.

Finally, let's also not forget the Utah Teapot.


It isn't what it used to be, but it is still a premier program.

Kudo's to Utah.

[SeattleUte]

Wow. You utes sure do get defensive.

she says after Cardiac insults the whole board.

I think I did a good job of restoring local pride.

[NorthwestUteFan]

that was just obtuse, not esoteric

Cute.

The overwhelming majority of out of state kids coming to byu come because 1) it is a Mormon school, and 2) it is cheap, 3) everything else. Take away its status as a Mormon school or its cheap tuition, and it would be just like every other private school with a history of blatant anti-free thinking policy for its professors.

My statement should have been very plain to see.

I won't discourage my kids from going, and expect they would have great experiences overall. It is nice and cheap, even less expensive than our in state options.

[Viking]

Cute.

The overwhelming majority of out of state kids coming to byu come because 1) it is a Mormon school, and 2) it is cheap, 3) everything else. Take away its status as a Mormon school or its cheap tuition, and it would be just like every other private school with a history of blatant anti-free thinking policy for its professors.

My statement should have been very plain to see.

I won't discourage my kids from going, and expect they would have great experiences overall. It is nice and cheap, even less expensive than our in state options.

You missed the legendary 1972 baby boom.

The number of BYU applications and Mormon missionaries exploded in 1990.

During orientation, Rex Lee told us in two years the avg ACT score had gone from 22 to 27 and the number of applicants was up 30%.

My professors however felt like they were the 22 variety and I surmised it would take JLs generation of professors to see the real benefit.

Dick Vetterli, god rest his soul, was a great example of old school BYU

[Babs]

I'm a latecomer to this thread. Why is this question even being asked?

Because the realignment discussion kept getting cluttered up with trolling as to whether it's even possible for the Pac-12 to be academically sullied any further now that Utah's in the mix.

[Viking]

The U of U pretty much invented computer graphics.

Donald Sutherland is considered the originator of much of the technology and founded the company that is right by campus: http://www.es.com/.

The professor who I worked for at BYU and got his PhD from Utah like to claim that Gouraud was his TA one semester and he was Phong's TA the nest.

Ed Catmull of Pixar fame (not to mention Catmull-Rom Splines and Catmull Clark subdivision surfaces) is also a product of Utah from that time.

Finally, let's also not forget the Utah Teapot.


It isn't what it used to be, but it is still a premier program.

Kudo's to Utah.

It's also home to some solid med tech/biotech

I'm excluding the heroin in a lollipop invention, however

[NorthwestUteFan]

Probably. But it's not.

FTR, most state schools with Utah's selectivity are the same.

Precisely my point. BYU has been able to be selective for about the last couple of decades. I, along with most of my friends who applied, was accepted. And that isn't saying much. I was very broken hearted about being turned down by Air Force Academy, but that is another story.

The tuition price, along with being the church's flagship school, pulls in a huge number of applications. The school only needs to skim the cream from the top to fill their quotas.

[NorthwestUteFan]

It's also home to some solid med tech/biotech

I'm excluding the heroin in a lollipop invention, however

The school invented the original drug, fentanyl I think, and assumed it would be easy to make an oral version to make the surgical experience far easier on kids. The FDA had other ideas and the process cost the school upwards of $70MM for trials.

I wish my kid had it when he got tubes put in his ears.

[Viking]

The school invented the original drug, fentanyl I think, and assumed it would be easy to make an oral version to make the surgical experience far easier on kids. The FDA had other ideas and the process cost the school upwards of $70MM for trials.

I wish my kid had it when he got tubes put in his ears.

It was later marketed as actiq for break through pain, especially in cancer patients

It was highly controversial, I believe

[MarkGrace]

I always thought commuter school referenced not just the fact that there is little on campus housing requiring little of the college experience, but also that most of the enrollment consisted of locals. In other words, it's not a destination school that attracts many from out of state.

I actually got curious as to how schools define it after SU's post. My campus job during law school was in the undergrad admissions, and I know how we thought of it, but obviously every school is not the same. It ranged from this:

Do you live in a residence hall on the UCCS campus? If you answered no, then you are indeed a commuter student

To this:

A commuter student is someone who lives at home, typically with their parents or other family members, and drives to school.

Our definition was mostly the latter, but a bit broader to include students who lived outside Seattle and commuted in to attend class, even if they didn't live with family. Students who were in the surrounding neighborhoods (Capitol Hill, First Hill, Central District, etc.) were considered "off-campus" students, which they distinguished from commuter students. So that's how I tend to think about it.

When I was at Weber St., I considered myself a commuter because I was driving from Farmington to Ogden everyday -- had I moved up to the area around campus, I would have no longer considered myself such. Maybe my definition is off, but my impression is that most people think of something in that ballpark. I've never heard any of the former UW students I work with say "I lived in the U District/Montlake/surrounding neighborhood and commuted." Anyone I've heard used that term was coming from an area more remote to the campus.

[LA Ute]

I'm a latecomer to this thread. Why is this question even being asked?

There is not an unembarrassing answer to that question.

[hostile]

It was later marketed as actiq for break through pain, especially in cancer patients

It was highly controversial, I believe

Still in use. One of the funnier statements I heard during med school was from the anesthesiologist who helped invent/develop Actiq. "intubation is a lot like sex. Its all about position, timing, and lubrication."

[NorthwestUteFan]

Of course it was controversial, most painkilling drugs are especially when politicized. It was also a brilliant application of chemistry to a common problem.

[Viking]

Still in use. One of the funnier statements I heard during med school was from the anesthesiologist who helped invent/develop Actiq. "intubation is a lot like sex. Its all about position, timing, and lubrication."

I looked at investing in round two for those guys, an application that used a heat activated patch. Passed on it. That was a long time ago

[hostile]

I looked at investing in round two for those guys, an application that used a heat activated patch. Passed on it. That was a long time ago

Long time for me as well.