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  • Borderline Divine
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 598

    #91
    Another little discussed topic in civil wars discussions is how important it was to the nation that Lee surrendered his army and told his soldiers to go home, not to disband into guerilla groups and ravage the countryside. This is discussed at length in a great book entitled "11 days in April." I'll find the author later.
    The Holy War is over, and Utah won - Federal Ute

    Think of how stupid the average American is. Then remember that half are even dumber than that. - George Carlin

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    • LA Ute
      Receiver of Memory
      • Nov 2008
      • 19512

      #92
      Originally posted by Borderline Divine View Post
      Another little discussed topic in civil wars discussions is how important it was to the nation that Lee surrendered his army and told his soldiers to go home, not to disband into guerilla groups and ravage the countryside. This is discussed at length in a great book entitled "11 days in April." I'll find the author later.
      This one covers that as well:

      [ame="http://www.amazon.com/April-1865-Month-Saved-America/dp/0060899689/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1303951767&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: April 1865: The Month That Saved America (P.S.) (9780060899684): Jay Winik: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51vUj6SsJqL.@@AMEPARAM@@51vUj6SsJqL[/ame]
      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
      ― W.H. Auden


      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #93
        Originally posted by happyone View Post
        Were those part of the defenses of Atlanta?
        Yes, one of the approaches to Atlanta from Chattanooga. It's about 22 miles NW from Atlanta proper.
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • San Juan Sun
          Kicked to the curb
          • Dec 2009
          • 9214

          #94
          For those interested, Netflix has Ken Burns' Civil War available as instant play.
          "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

          - Ty Cobb

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          • Parrot Head
            Operation Hot Mother
            • Nov 2008
            • 2322

            #95
            Though sometimes disputed, there's a point of interest here in Charlotte:

            I have nothing else to say at this time.

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            • happyone
              Board Bookworm
              • Mar 2009
              • 5398

              #96
              Originally posted by Borderline Divine View Post
              I remember reading a review on Foote's excellent series that said "This project now finished, need not be attempted again."

              Did you know he was a novelist before he took on that project?
              Yes I did know he was a novelist, however the only one of his novels I've read is Shiloh, about the civil war battle, which as you might expect is pretty good and suprisingly not too long

              [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Shiloh-Novel-Shelby-Foote/dp/0679735429/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1303960449&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: Shiloh: A Novel (9780679735427): Shelby Foote: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61QZKb25CVL.@@AMEPARAM@@61QZKb25CVL[/ame]
              Last edited by happyone; 04-28-2011, 08:09 AM.

              I may be small, but I'm slow.

              A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."

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              • Borderline Divine
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 598

                #97
                Thanks. Thats actually the book I was referring to. I only missed the title by "that" much.
                The Holy War is over, and Utah won - Federal Ute

                Think of how stupid the average American is. Then remember that half are even dumber than that. - George Carlin

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                • filsdepac
                  No pun intended
                  • May 2009
                  • 1823

                  #98
                  Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                  For those interested, Netflix has Ken Burns' Civil War available as instant play.
                  I've been watching these at lunch since you posted this and they're fantastic. What a fascinating time in military history, when weapons were changing so rapidly and tactics couldn't keep up. It's rather heartbreaking as well to hear all the personal stories, from both sides.

                  Also, I'm not typically a fan of southern accents (sorry wuap), but Shelby Foote has a great one.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69676

                    #99
                    This week on the Daily Show, John Stewart interviewed Jon Meacham who has written a companion book (American Homer: Reflections on Shelby Foote) to accompany a new edition of Foote's Civil War trilogy:

                    The source for The Daily Show fans, with episodes hosted by Jon Stewart, Ronny Chieng, Jordan Klepper, Dulcé Sloan and more, plus interviews, highlights and The Weekly Show podcast.


                    Here is the new edition:

                    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Trilogy-Box-Set/dp/0679643702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1304784248&sr=8-1"]Amazon.com: The Civil War Trilogy Box Set: With American Homer: Reflections on Shelby Foote and His Classic The Civil War: A Narrative (Modern Library) (9780679643708): Shelby Foote, Jon Meacham: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51l%2BOrsoPpL.@@AMEPARAM@@51l%2BOrsoPpL[/ame]

                    I would love to get the companion book by itself since I already own the trilogy, but I am having trouble tracking it down. Doesn't appear to be sold separately. Darn it.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #100
                      Originally posted by filsdepac View Post

                      Also, I'm not typically a fan of southern accents (sorry wuap), but Shelby Foote has a great one.
                      Well, you have to admit that my slight drawl carries a certain animalistic mesmerizing charm.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • San Juan Sun
                        Kicked to the curb
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9214

                        #101
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        Well, you have to admit that my slight drawl carries a certain animalistic mesmerizing charm.
                        The Kavorka!
                        "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                        - Ty Cobb

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                        • LA Ute
                          Receiver of Memory
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19512

                          #102
                          This looks pretty exciting for Civil War buffs:

                          Millions of Civil War Records Now Available on FamilySearch Website
                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden


                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69676

                            #103
                            I hereby announce the El Duderino Civil War Trivia Contest. I will periodically post trivia questions in this thread and see who can provide the correct answer. Here are the rules:

                            1) No googling
                            2) No lifelines

                            All answers should come from memory. No scoring and no winners and losers. This is just for fun.

                            Let's start out with something easy:

                            Q: What was the name of R.E. Lee's horse?
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • happyone
                              Board Bookworm
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5398

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              I hereby announce the El Duderino Civil War Trivia Contest. I will periodically post trivia questions in this thread and see who can provide the correct answer. Here are the rules:

                              1) No googling
                              2) No lifelines

                              All answers should come from memory. No scoring and no winners and losers. This is just for fun.

                              Let's start out with something easy:

                              Q: What was the name of R.E. Lee's horse?
                              do want it via pm or just post it?

                              I may be small, but I'm slow.

                              A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."

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                              • Borderline Divine
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 598

                                #105
                                Traveler
                                The Holy War is over, and Utah won - Federal Ute

                                Think of how stupid the average American is. Then remember that half are even dumber than that. - George Carlin

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