"He's dead, Jim" - The 20XX Death Thread

[Northwestcoug]

I didn't know anything about the Panama Canal treaty that Carter signed. Interesting history:

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/29/1161146405/president-jimmy-carter-legacy-panama

[Bo Diddley]

I didn't know anything about the Panama Canal treaty that Carter signed. Interesting history:

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/29/11611...-legacy-panama

That's an interesting read. I remember when this happened, but I didn't know the back story.

I also wrote an article at Morrill Middle School about the election when Ronald Reagan won in a landslide. Leading up to the election, I ran a mock election at our school. Not surprisingly, Jimmy Carter got more votes at my school in San Jose.

I thought he was a terrible president at the time because I was raised in a conservative home. Now I wonder if he just wasn't a great fit for the time.

Regardless, I've been a fan of him as a person for quite some time now. I almost made it to one of his Sunday school lessons, but missed the boat. We could use more people like him.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Yeah, I remember the signing of that treaty that really well. Very controversial at the time.

[Northwestcoug]

Something else I didn't know about Carter. After his presidency he was instrumental in eliminating most Guinea worm cases in the world. If you don't know what that is, google pictures of it. Pretty gross.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...m-guinea-worm/

I think the measure of his entire life makes up for any deficiencies in his presidency many times over.

[Donuthole]

My 4th grade teacher, Mr. Kemple, was a retired navy vet. He was an amazing 4th grade teacher--seriously the perfect balance of fun/stern, playful/serious, etc. I was only 10 at the time, so I didn't really appreciate what a political nut he was. At any rate, his favorite thing to say was always "Jimmy Carter was a terrible president and i'll never forgive him for giving away the Panama Canal." Of course as a 10 year old, I didn't really understand any of the complexities of the situation, and I remember that his explanation was always just "we had control of the passageway to the world and we gave it away.") This was in 1988, so a good decade after the treaty had been signed, and Mr. Kemple was still steaming about it.

In 10th grade I decided to do my end-of-year history report on why Jimmy Carter was a terrible president for giving away the Panama Canal. I remember as I did my research (World Book encyclopedias and a CD Rom Encyclopedia were some of my sources, as well as a book on the history of the canal and the treaty transferring it to Panama) I learned about how the Canal had impacted the locals and how the US had essentially forced itself into their country and claimed territory so it could build the canal. As I talked through the topic with my 10th grade world history teacher, it became pretty clear that there were a lot of pros and cons both ways. (And I also began to realize that Mr. Kemple was a little nutty and probably saw things a little too black and white for his own good. But in 4th grade, his word was the gospel.)

Also, it wasn't until later that I realized that Mr. Kemple wore a toupee. Which made perfect sense in retrospect, as he absolutely positively would NOT go outside without first putting on his U.S. Navy hat, and after coming in from recess, he would stand in front of the mirror in the back of the classroom and make sure his hair (well, someone's hair, anyway) looked good before resuming his spot at the head of the class. There is an allegory in there somewhere, I suppose.

[Jeff Lebowski]

My 4th grade teacher, Mr. Kemple, was a retired navy vet. He was an amazing 4th grade teacher--seriously the perfect balance of fun/stern, playful/serious, etc. I was only 10 at the time, so I didn't really appreciate what a political nut he was. At any rate, his favorite thing to say was always "Jimmy Carter was a terrible president and i'll never forgive him for giving away the Panama Canal." Of course as a 10 year old, I didn't really understand any of the complexities of the situation, and I remember that his explanation was always just "we had control of the passageway to the world and we gave it away.") This was in 1988, so a good decade after the treaty had been signed, and Mr. Kemple was still steaming about it.

In 10th grade I decided to do my end-of-year history report on why Jimmy Carter was a terrible president for giving away the Panama Canal. I remember as I did my research (World Book encyclopedias and a CD Rom Encyclopedia were some of my sources, as well as a book on the history of the canal and the treaty transferring it to Panama) I learned about how the Canal had impacted the locals and how the US had essentially forced itself into their country and claimed territory so it could build the canal. As I talked through the topic with my 10th grade world history teacher, it became pretty clear that there were a lot of pros and cons both ways. (And I also began to realize that Mr. Kemple was a little nutty and probably saw things a little too black and white for his own good. But in 4th grade, his word was the gospel.)

Also, it wasn't until later that I realized that Mr. Kemple wore a toupee. Which made perfect sense in retrospect, as he absolutely positively would NOT go outside without first putting on his U.S. Navy hat, and after coming in from recess, he would stand in front of the mirror in the back of the classroom and make sure his hair (well, someone's hair, anyway) looked good before resuming his spot at the head of the class. There is an allegory in there somewhere, I suppose.

That’s funny. I wrote an essay on the exact same topic when I was a senior in high school right after the canal was transferred. I remember my history teacher sitting me down later and telling me how disappointed he was in me because of the essay.

[All-American]

The Holy War. ;(

[Shaka]

Wayne Osmond

[Northwestcoug]

Wayne Osmond

that video is....something.
The Osmond Brothers weren't my generation but I had thought they were more like the Donny and Marie. This is hard rock.

[Shaka]

that video is....something.
The Osmond Brothers weren't my generation but I had thought they were more like the Donny and Marie. This is hard rock.

It shouldn't have been my era either. My older brothers were in high school by the time I came along. When I was a tiny kid I was fed a steady diet of Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, and Teh Osmonds. In that era Crazy Horses was considered borderline heavy metal. It's been covered a bunch of times and quite a few successful artists have played versions in concert.

The Osmond Brothers were an actual rock band for a while. This was their preference but the parents pushed the family angle and the producers pushed the Donny and Marie angle.

They made three albums in their rock era. They wrote most of the music and played most of the instruments in the studio. If you want to check those albums out they are:

Phase III
Crazy Horses
The Plan

The Plan was a concept album about The Plan of Salvation. It's suprisingly good. I recommend giving it a few listens as it will grow on you.

I enjoy this cover by Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr. Big, solo artist, and renowned clinician.)

Legendary drummer Mike Portnoy ()Dream Theater) did great live cover of Crazy Horses during a solo show.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Another year has passed and we luckily did not get news that Super Dell Schanze died in either a road rage shootout or power hang glider accident. For me, this means that 2024 was a good year.

[Northwestcoug]

It shouldn't have been my era either. My older brothers were in high school by the time I came along. When I was a tiny kid I was fed a steady diet of Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, and Teh Osmonds. In that era Crazy Horses was considered borderline heavy metal. It's been covered a bunch of times and quite a few successful artists have played versions in concert.

The Osmond Brothers were an actual rock band for a while. This was their preference but the parents pushed the family angle and the producers pushed the Donny and Marie angle.

They made three albums in their rock era. They wrote most of the music and played most of the instruments in the studio. If you want to check those albums out they are:

Phase III
Crazy Horses
The Plan

The Plan was a concept album about The Plan of Salvation. It's suprisingly good. I recommend giving it a few listens as it will grow on you.

I enjoy this cover by Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr. Big, solo artist, and renowned clinician.)

Legendary drummer Mike Portnoy ()Dream Theater) did great live cover of Crazy Horses during a solo show.

I had no idea they did songs like that. Those covers are solid.

[USUC]

Wayne Osmond

I love when people discover the rock era Osmonds.

[BigFatMeanie]

Another year has passed and we luckily did not get news that Super Dell Schanze died in either a road rage shootout or power hang glider accident. For me, this means that 2024 was a good year.

LOL. Good ol Super Dell. He always makes me chuckle.

[beefytee]

Can’t believe so many is you had never heard Crazy Horses before. That was the Osmonds most popular song. At least it is the only one that I remembered.