This this guy a prick or just trying to get a reaction?

[BigPiney]

I just read the Japanese internment camps letter.



So much for a presumption of innocence. I didn't think people still defended this action? It's about time we rounded up all the Arabs before they blow up something else

I live 30 miles from one of the camps (Manzanar) and wholly recommend the visit. It is really well done and the visitor center is great. What is really interesting is walking aroud the cam p and seeing the remnants fo the gardens that were built during their time there. It is amazing the beauty they were able to create during such adversity.

There are still locals around here that think the government did nothing wrong in doing all of this. At the site they have rebuilt one of the guard towers, and some of the old timers insist that the guard tower is complete fiction, that they were never there in the first place.

[Jacob]

For example, why would an LDS person be enraged that this guy wants a woman with zero career goals? There are loads and loads of LDS women roaming around Utah that "just want to be a mom." And just as many guys that are ab-fab with such an arrangement. Sherri dew. The whole 9 yards.

I agree completely, but because I can hardly understand why a guy would want to marry a girl who doesn't plan on being a stay-at-home mom. IOW, that was indeed a deal breaker for me.

I guess I still gots lots of learnin' to do.

But so far, only 6 years in, I'm still glad my wife is at home. Though that second income sure would make it easier to finally get my theater room built.

[Pheidippides]

I live 30 miles from one of the camps (Manzanar) and wholly recommend the visit. It is really well done and the visitor center is great. What is really interesting is walking aroud the cam p and seeing the remnants fo the gardens that were built during their time there. It is amazing the beauty they were able to create during such adversity.

There are still locals around here that think the government did nothing wrong in doing all of this. At the site they have rebuilt one of the guard towers, and some of the old timers insist that the guard tower is complete fiction, that they were never there in the first place.

I would love to visit the camps, not quite in the same way that I'd like to visit Auschwitz, but along those lines.

The guy who wrote the letter used to teach some Japanese courses at BYU, IIRC. Weird guy.

[Indy Coug]

My grandfather-in-law used to work on the railroad that serviced the camp. He never liked what was going on there.

[TripletDaddy]

Reading the Daily Universe reminds me of how much I hated BYU at times.

I followed YOhio's link and only had to scroll back 2 pages to find some classics:

Dance on campus playing "worldly" music

I agree wholeheartedly with the author of “Dance a disappointment” (Jan. 19). BYU dances are made in the image of Babylon with psychedelic strobe lights, darkness, and pulsating noise enough to make your body tremble. President Boyd K. Packer in his 1991 talk “Reverence Invites” decried just such music as part of the “drug culture.” Is there no good music that we have to resort to the drug culture for our inspiration? I have a hard time believing that the Spirit can be present in such environments.

As Elder David A. Bednar so wisely put (in April 2006), “If that which is intended to entertain ... alienates us from the Holy Spirit, then certainly that type of entertainment is not for us.”

Lyndon Plowthow
Orem

And one that is pretty unique: deer droppings on sidewalk a safety hazard

I am writing in response to the Jan. 12 letter “Grounds Crude.”
I work on grounds crew. I have seen the deer come into my area time and time again leaving their droppings wherever they deem appropriate. I’ve had to clean it up. I also more regularly have to chip away at ice in unused places on campus. What you need to realize is that the ice that covers campus poses a threat to the students, whereas the deer remains are just a nuisance. If a student goes to an unused patio, slips, and breaks his or her back, I would feel like I failed at my job. If you step in poo, I pity you, but you are still safe. Grounds crew priorities are to make you safe, then comfortable.
Scott Gardner
Clearfield

I didn't scroll back far enough, but twice a year you always get the debate about the bookstore being open during General Conference. Those are always insightful reads.

Truthfully the Daily Universe is a wonderful encapsulation of the banality of BYU culture (NOT Mormonism, mind you). In fact, I would argue that it is perhaps the single best documentation we have of what it is like to attend there. I have shared some BYU stories with co-workers that attended other schools and sometimes they just don't believe that such things would happen on a university campus.

I like what PAC said the other day about BYU....to paraphrase, it is weird and strange and what do you care? I wouldn't have it any other way. How many people can say that they have lived in an alternate dimension?

[Pheidippides]

Truthfully the Daily Universe is a wonderful encapsulation of the banality of BYU culture (NOT Mormonism, mind you). In fact, I would argue that it is perhaps the single best documentation we have of what it is like to attend there. I have shared some BYU stories with co-workers that attended other schools and sometimes they just don't believe that such things would happen on a university campus.

I like what PAC said the other day about BYU....to paraphrase, it is weird and strange and what do you care? I wouldn't have it any other way. How many people can say that they have lived in an alternate dimension?

Indeed. BYU is the center from which all the weirdness of Mormondom emanates.

[SuperGabers]

Joking or not, the sad thing is there are males and females out there who would adhere to this kind of thinking. One nice thing about living outside of Utah is the realization the LDS Church isn't the only church with this kind of mentality. I guess that is not really all the comforting, but at least we are not alone.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I love the Daily Universe Classifieds.

Brigham Young University-Idaho and Provo are both Church schools, yet they differ nearly as two different worlds. After two years at BYU-Idaho, I transferred to BYU and I have been both pleased and disappointed. The new academic pressure to be successful flourishes within the walls of each building on campus. Yet the “Spirit of Ricks” that enchants and supports the students of BYU-Idaho does not exist here as clearly as in Rexburg. The standards of living are not held to such high regard and practiced with such strictness here at BYU. Though many people strive to do their best in maintaining the Honor Code, I believe the students here at BYU would benefit from working a little harder at raising the bar.

Girls, watch your skirts and clothing. It is essential to the sanity of our young men and to the dignity of womanhood that you are modest. Young men, you are priesthood holders. It has been asked of you to be clean in your appearance. Also, it is time to work together and keep curfew. The contents within the Honor Code have been set up by prophets, therefore, Heavenly Father has asked us to live a little different from the rest of the world. Great blessings and unity thrive at a university that is living a strict honor code together. I believe it is time for BYU to wake up and recommit to keeping the Honor Code. It does not restrict our lives but enriches our lives.

http://universe.byu.edu/node/5684

[Pheidippides]

I love the Daily Universe Classifieds.



http://universe.byu.edu/node/5684

These sorts of things are why nikugirl and I are going to have a serious discussion before she goes to BYU, if that is her choice.

I have always hated the honor code worship, like it was transcribed from stone tablets given by God to Ernest L. Wilkinson in the midst of forty days of fervent prayer and fasting on Y Mountain seeking answers for the eradication of hippies and their damned golden calf.

[Indy Coug]

These sorts of things are why nikugirl and I are going to have a serious discussion before she goes to BYU, if that is her choice.

Seriously? BYU certainly can be a culturally goofy place at times, but I would be infinitely more inclined to have a serious discussion with my kids about them going to a non-denominational school than I would be if they went to the BYU or BYU-hyphen.

[landpoke]

These sorts of things are why nikugirl and I are going to have a serious discussion before she goes to BYU, if that is her choice.

I have always hated the honor code worship, like it was transcribed from stone tablets given by God to Ernest L. Wilkinson in the midst of forty days of fervent prayer and fasting on Y Mountain seeking answers for the eradication of hippies and their damned golden calf.

Sometimes I think this is all you people and I have in common.

[Soccermom]

I followed YOhio's link and only had to scroll back 2 pages to find some classics:

Dance on campus playing "worldly" music



And one that is pretty unique: deer droppings on sidewalk a safety hazard



I didn't scroll back far enough, but twice a year you always get the debate about the bookstore being open during General Conference. Those are always insightful reads.

Truthfully the Daily Universe is a wonderful encapsulation of the banality of BYU culture (NOT Mormonism, mind you). In fact, I would argue that it is perhaps the single best documentation we have of what it is like to attend there. I have shared some BYU stories with co-workers that attended other schools and sometimes they just don't believe that such things would happen on a university campus.

I like what PAC said the other day about BYU....to paraphrase, it is weird and strange and what do you care? I wouldn't have it any other way. How many people can say that they have lived in an alternate dimension?

Has anyone done a study determining the frequency with which letters to the Daily Universe editor begin with "I'm shocked and appalled?"

If not, I'm shocked and appalled.

[Pheidippides]

Seriously? BYU certainly can be a culturally goofy place at times, but I would be infinitely more inclined to have a serious discussion with my kids about them going to a non-denominational school than I would be if they went to the BYU or BYU-hyphen.

Seriously. My daughter will likely have grown up outside of Utah with decidedly non-fundamentalist parents, and some of the sanctimoniousness is going to come as a severe shock.

[Indy Coug]

Seriously. My daughter will likely have grown up outside of Utah with decidedly non-fundamentalist parents, and some of the sanctimoniousness is going to come as a severe shock.

I was just happy to finally be at a school where I wasn't mocked for my religion and being told repeatedly I wasn't a Christian.

[Pheidippides]

I was just happy to finally be at a school where I wasn't mocked for my religion and being told repeatedly I wasn't a Christian.

I can see that. I don't think that's the world my daughter is growing up in (at least not so far, and I hope that means the world has changed since you and I were kids). As things stand right now, I have little worry about her ability to function as a good human and Mormon inside the world at large. I have every worry about her ability to sift through the chaff and wheat in Provo.