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    Didn't see one of these yet, so figured I'd get it going.

    With all the negativity running around (of which I'm certainly a major source), I'd like to acknowledge some of the positives of this team that give me hope that we'll be able to win the next 4 games. Yes, they're all patsies and victory should not provide too much satisfaction, but I think it will nonetheless. This BYU team needs some success moving the football. It needs some easier defenses to allow it to find a groove and allow the playmakers to identify themselves. And yes, it would be nice to beat as many of these teams as possible the last time (at least for awhile) that we play them.

    So here's what I'm excited about:

    Bronco is a beast. The turnaround in this defense since he took over is night and day. There are still mistakes, but I was amazed at how they did against TCU. Minus a cheap RUTS TD and some terrible offensive playcalling to end the first half, and that game might have ended at 10-3. My issues with Bronco are well-known and shared by many here, but there is no denying that he is a motivator of men. This defense should only get better.

    Andrew Rich. Dude is a fanatic and a perfect fit for Bronco's defense. We'll miss him greatly.

    The RBs. Brian Kariya has been much better recently, and when used properly is actually a decent weapon. I've been hard on him, but his main problem has been being asked to do things he shouldn't by an incompetent playcaller. As Wrubell tweeted, Kariya has gotten first down yardage on 3rd and 5 or less on 9 out of 10 tries this season. Particularly given that some of those carries were off-tackle stretch hand-offs, that's impressive. He's an asset, albeit a largely misused one. DiLuigi is perhaps the best asset this offense has, and he's been impressive when not asked to run between the guards or on delayed shotgun handoffs against a very quick defense. He'll not be an outstanding running back, but he's got what it takes to get good yardage against the weak MWC defenses.

    The WRs. Yes, I know. They've been unbelievably mishandled this year, but we know that several of the returners can play because they did last year, and if someone is found who can properly coach/motivate them, they should be fine. The underclassmen have disappointed, but are nevertheless perhaps the most highly-recruited bunch ever in Provo, and they too should be fine, and perhaps great eventually. Heaps and the TEs could end up similarly, but they've been so spectacularly mishandled that it's hard to say. Either way, the talent is available, and I'm really hoping it blooms over the next month.

    Special teams. Kickoff and punt coverage has been very good with a couple exceptions, Mitch Payne has been very good at what he's been asked to do, and Stephenson will be great if he can lose the shanks.

    Given Bronco's comments regarding the offense finding its identity, and trusting Jay Santos' translation thereof, I think the offense performs well enough to beat Wyoming.

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    I see wyoming at +10.5 and I see $$$$. That is my evaluation of the game.
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    • #3
      In some ways this game is a bit reminiscent of the 2004 game against Wyoming. We had just lost to UNLV in an uninspired performance and had to beat Wyoming to stop the bleeding. The way we did it then was pure power running. Just rammed it down their throats. Curtis and Fahu combined for over 200 yards of rushing that game. I think we essentially do the same thing this week. Keep it on the ground to minimize turnovers and keep the ball out of ACS's hands.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        In some ways this game is a bit reminiscent of the 2004 game against Wyoming. We had just lost to UNLV in an uninspired performance and had to beat Wyoming to stop the bleeding. The way we did it then was pure power running. Just rammed it down their throats. Curtis and Fahu combined for over 200 yards of rushing that game. I think we essentially do the same thing this week. Keep it on the ground to minimize turnovers and keep the ball out of ACS's hands.
        Do we have a choice really? Throwing past the line of scrimmage makes the Holy Ghost cry so it's 3 yards and an ox in the mire from here on out.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
          In some ways this game is a bit reminiscent of the 2004 game against Wyoming. We had just lost to UNLV in an uninspired performance and had to beat Wyoming to stop the bleeding. The way we did it then was pure power running. Just rammed it down their throats. Curtis and Fahu combined for over 200 yards of rushing that game. I think we essentially do the same thing this week. Keep it on the ground to minimize turnovers and keep the ball out of ACS's hands.
          I'd be very happy with this strategy. Pound all 3 RBs at them (According to their strengths) from the I formation, with some play-action easy-read roll-outs mixed in. That should be enough to win.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by woot View Post
            Didn't see one of these yet, so figured I'd get it going.

            With all the negativity running around (of which I'm certainly a major source), I'd like to acknowledge some of the positives of this team that give me hope that we'll be able to win the next 4 games. Yes, they're all patsies and victory should not provide too much satisfaction, but I think it will nonetheless. This BYU team needs some success moving the football. It needs some easier defenses to allow it to find a groove and allow the playmakers to identify themselves. And yes, it would be nice to beat as many of these teams as possible the last time (at least for awhile) that we play them.

            So here's what I'm excited about:

            Bronco is a beast. The turnaround in this defense since he took over is night and day. There are still mistakes, but I was amazed at how they did against TCU. Minus a cheap RUTS TD and some terrible offensive playcalling to end the first half, and that game might have ended at 10-3. My issues with Bronco are well-known and shared by many here, but there is no denying that he is a motivator of men. This defense should only get better.

            Andrew Rich. Dude is a fanatic and a perfect fit for Bronco's defense. We'll miss him greatly.

            The RBs. Brian Kariya has been much better recently, and when used properly is actually a decent weapon. I've been hard on him, but his main problem has been being asked to do things he shouldn't by an incompetent playcaller. As Wrubell tweeted, Kariya has gotten first down yardage on 3rd and 5 or less on 9 out of 10 tries this season. Particularly given that some of those carries were off-tackle stretch hand-offs, that's impressive. He's an asset, albeit a largely misused one. DiLuigi is perhaps the best asset this offense has, and he's been impressive when not asked to run between the guards or on delayed shotgun handoffs against a very quick defense. He'll not be an outstanding running back, but he's got what it takes to get good yardage against the weak MWC defenses.

            The WRs. Yes, I know. They've been unbelievably mishandled this year, but we know that several of the returners can play because they did last year, and if someone is found who can properly coach/motivate them, they should be fine. The underclassmen have disappointed, but are nevertheless perhaps the most highly-recruited bunch ever in Provo, and they too should be fine, and perhaps great eventually. Heaps and the TEs could end up similarly, but they've been so spectacularly mishandled that it's hard to say. Either way, the talent is available, and I'm really hoping it blooms over the next month.

            Special teams. Kickoff and punt coverage has been very good with a couple exceptions, Mitch Payne has been very good at what he's been asked to do, and Stephenson will be great if he can lose the shanks.

            Given Bronco's comments regarding the offense finding its identity, and trusting Jay Santos' translation thereof, I think the offense performs well enough to beat Wyoming.
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            • #7
              Weather shows cloudy/rain for Saturday.

              I'm predicting 45K in attendance and tickets on the street for anywhere from $0 to around $20 for the best seats.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                Weather shows cloudy/rain for Saturday.

                I'm predicting 45K in attendance and tickets on the street for anywhere from $0 to around $20 for the best seats.
                KSL has endzone seats for $10 right now.
                *Banned*

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  KSL has endzone seats for $10 right now.
                  that may be too high, truthfully.

                  If I'm selling right now, I'm clearing out to all takers.

                  Sidelines will be an easy get on Saturday. Even the scalpers will have to be starting at about $30 at most. This final stretch of home games is probably one of the lowest points in BYU football ticket scalping history since the stadium expansion. No joke.
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                  • #10
                    I truly hope we strap it on, line it up, and run the ball right down Wyo's throat. I think that is what this offense will be best at. Once their entire D starts focusing on our run game, Heaps may be able to get a few passes going.

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                    • #11
                      I think running out of the I will win us the next 4 games(we'll need more against CSU though) but we also have to start creating an offensive identity for next year and developing our young QB to be able to read defenses and make plays otherwise we'll be in the same boat nexr year.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                        I see wyoming at +10.5 and I see $$$$. That is my evaluation of the game.
                        I'd take BYU in that. The D's got it together and we're at home. I don't see the offense blowing up, but I could easily see 27-10.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                          Do we have a choice really? Throwing past the line of scrimmage makes the Holy Ghost cry so it's 3 yards and an ox in the mire from here on out.
                          The Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones. I am not sure that it is capable of crying. Perhaps we should move this to The Foyer.
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                          • #14
                            We better win this thing.

                            Handoff to JJ, handoff to JJ, handoff to Kariya, handoff to Q, handoff to Hague, throw. Repeat as needed.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              We better win this thing.

                              Handoff to JJ, handoff to JJ, handoff to Kariya, handoff to Q, handoff to Hague, throw. Repeat as needed.
                              I'd like to see Q get a lot more touches than he has. I'd also like to be six inches taller. Sadly, neither will happen on Saturday.
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