2020 BYU Cougars Football Thread

[Lost Student]

So what does that mean? They say not enough evidence. For DUI? Don't they test for that?

I can tell you haven't read the comment sections in the newspaper articles about this. The many unbiased and knowledgeable Utes (that care so little about BYU that they show up for every BYU-related article) have made it clear that this is just another case of a BYU athlete getting preferential treatment as a result of a call from the COB.

[myboynoah]

I can tell you haven't read the comment sections in the newspaper articles about this. The many unbiased and knowledgeable Utes (that care so little about BYU that they show up for every BYU-related article) have made it clear that this is just another case of a BYU athlete getting preferential treatment as a result of a call from the COB.

Ha. Just "another case?" I recall two, not one, but two gang-rape scandals that didn't get that preferential treatment.

What are the other cases that allows this to qualify as "another" case?

[Green Monstah]

Reading between the lines of Jared Lloyd's article, it sounds like there were some probably cause issues for the car search. Either way, it's clear there was alcohol and a THC vape pen found, so homeboy doesn't escape HC scrutiny.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Reading between the lines of Jared Lloyd's article, it sounds like there were some probably cause issues for the car search. Either way, it's clear there was alcohol and a THC vape pen found, so homeboy doesn't escape HC scrutiny.

Yes. The HC doesn't base their conclusion on the whims of the local prosecutors office.

[wapiti]

Yes. The HC doesn't base their conclusion on the whims of the local prosecutors office.

Nor does it operate under the rules of due process and presumption of innocence.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Nor does it operate under the rules of due process and presumption of innocence.

Due process? What does that even mean in the context of the HCO? Do you think the HCO can or should operate like a police force?

[All-American]

Yes. The HC doesn't base their conclusion on the whims of the local prosecutors office.

Which means we will see him in blue come 2021.

That may be the best outcome for him, really. He gets off scot-free as far as legal ramifications are concerned, but still gets some sense slapped into him by the honor code office. Years from now, when anybody asks, he can say it was just BYU being BYU.

[YOhio]

I feel pretty strongly that if he's not immediately reinstated on the team then it's like BYU doesn't care about the atonement.

[Joe Public]

Due process? What does that even mean in the context of the HCO? Do you think the HCO can or should operate like a police force?

Easy there, big fella. Wapiti is saying the criminal procedural and other constitutional concerns from the standpoint of a government prosecutor do not apply to the HCO. That also seems to be what you are saying in this post, although your previous characterization of the analysis a prosecutor makes in that regard as mere whimsy is likely what led to wapiti's clarification.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Easy there, big fella. Wapiti is saying the criminal procedural and other constitutional concerns from the standpoint of a government prosecutor do not apply to the HCO. That also seems to be what you are saying in this post, although your previous characterization of the analysis a prosecutor makes in that regard as mere whimsy is likely what led to wapiti's clarification.

No, that wasn't what I was trying to say. Just saying that lack of prosecution doesn't (and shouldn't) impact what the HCO does.

[myboynoah]

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[Commando]

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Damn hope the HCO doesn't see that tweet-- that's as good as an admission for them.

[myboynoah]

Damn hope the HCO doesn't see that tweet-- that's as good as an admission for them.

I read the DesNews article and it's pretty clear he was/is a violator. Maybe he's nudging them along.

[Joe Public]

Wapiti is saying the criminal procedural and other constitutional concerns from the standpoint of a government prosecutor do not apply to the HCO. That also seems to be what you are saying in this post [. . .]

No, that wasn't what I was trying to say. Just saying that lack of prosecution doesn't (and shouldn't) impact what the HCO does.

Thanks for clarifying.

[MartyFunkhouser]

BYU has the best chance to beat the Utes in a decade. If Covid-19 ends up postponing the season or making the game not happen, I think we can officially admit that if a higher-being does exist, that higher-being wants BYU to never beat the Utes again.