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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    That would require those who are currently in charge to sever the ties and walk away. The same organization that built the university. It would also fundamentally change the mission. Not bloody likely.

    Either way, this wouldn't happen unless there was a strong push for such a change from the university's constituents (faculty, students, alumni, church members, etc.). That's not happening.
    I agree. The members and alumni could change it but don't want to. I don't understand it. They must put something in your all's sacrament water.

    Reminds me of how there were only about a dozen women who identified themselves as LDS who spoke out against Sister Beck's admonitions to women.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
      Unless that is per school, that is not anywhere near a value at what each school would be giving up to have a fake champion crowned in football.
      Currently the Pac 10 contract is 88million or 8.8 million per team. Lets say you add BYU and Utah and add a champ game for 13.7 million that means you only need to get 3.9 million more in revenue (added bowls, and increase in contract due to more teams) to make the move cash neutral. Additionally, every team gets 4 conference home games each year and half the teams have an additional spot to have an extra home game each year. Its pretty clear the money would be better for them if there was a PAC 12
      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
        Currently the Pac 10 contract is 88million or 8.8 million per team. Lets say you add BYU and Utah and add a champ game for 13.7 million that means you only need to get 3.9 million more in revenue (added bowls, and increase in contract due to more teams) to make the move cash neutral. Additionally, every team gets 4 conference home games each year and half the teams have an additional spot to have an extra home game each year. Its pretty clear the money would be better for them if there was a PAC 12
        In a 12-team format, of course i get the need for a championship game. The current critique, as it stands, is that the PAC does not play a championship game, which is then inherently unfair. As it stands, with 10 teams, there is no purpose to be served by playing a championship game. All teams have already played each other. You would simply be replaying one game from the regular season every year. It makes no sense.

        In stead, the PAC chooses to play a respectable OOC schedule and build its exposure.

        I like the fact that everyone plays each other. The non-California schools like that, as well. There is no way the non-California schools are going to want to be omitted from playing in SoCal for $3-5M extra dollars a year. SoCal is the lifeblood of the entire PAC10 conference.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          I like the fact that everyone plays each other. The non-California schools like that, as well. There is no way the non-California schools are going to want to be omitted from playing in SoCal for $3-5M extra dollars a year. SoCal is the lifeblood of the entire PAC10 conference.
          That is an easy appeasement.

          1) There are 7 conference Home games in SOCAL and when you add in the two Socal schools that makes 9 and leaves 3 left out in the lurch. Make a stipulation That byu and utah only get one game in SOCAL Each year which leaves two teams out of the loop. Have a pre conference game for each of these teams in San Diego's new stadium against MWC or WAC teams as their first game of the year.
          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
            That is an easy appeasement.

            1) There are 7 conference Home games in SOCAL and when you add in the two Socal schools that makes 9 and leaves 3 left out in the lurch. Make a stipulation That byu and utah only get one game in SOCAL Each year which leaves two teams out of the loop. Have a pre conference game for each of these teams in San Diego's new stadium against MWC or WAC teams as their first game of the year.
            Problem solved!
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            • #66
              The argument has progressed from "Why would the Pac 10 want Utah?" to "Why would the [smug and insular] Pac 10 want to expand?"

              I like that.
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • #67
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                The argument has progressed from "Why would the Pac 10 want Utah?" to "Why would the [smug and insular] Pac 10 want to expand?"

                I like that.
                Your summation is about as accurate as your reference to some alleged Utah/Kentucky basketball rivalry.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  Your summation is about as accurate as your reference to some alleged Utah/Kentucky basketball rivalry.
                  Your attempted trolls of me have taken on a twang of desperation. I see them as boomerang trolls not requiring any response.

                  I like that. I suppose I should in part thank Whit for this new found power over you.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by The Rambam View Post
                    Heck, if BYU and Utah don't get invites to the PAC-10, I think the MWC should add Boise St., Nevada and Houston and have a 12 team league.
                    Houston is having a good year.

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