Bronco tells why he believes BYU lost out on Manti Te'o

[Hot Lunch]

Of the players that BYU recruited that went elsewhere I think Bronco is right:

Christian Tupou- no mission
Uona Kaveinga- no mission
Stanley Havili- no mission
Jordan Cameron- no mission
John Martinez- definitely no mission
(I am starting to see a trend, how can you support a school that is so against your church? )

SIone Fua- max hall mini mission
David Kruger- no mission
Sealver Siliaga- no mission
Derek Tuimauga- no mission
Simi Fili- no mission
Mau Nomani- is currently on a mission
Will Tukuafu- served a mission

Looks like if you stay away from USC and Utah you are just fine in regards to a mission.

Hamani Stevens, the kid that went to Oregon is going on a mission I believe. I may be wrong though.

[cougjunkie]

Hamani Stevens, the kid that went to Oregon is going on a mission I believe. I may be wrong though.

Kevin Prince- no mission.

[byu71]

Kevin Prince- no mission.

You are a reasonable guy. Don't you think it would be nice if we could get some of these no mission guys. Would it be OK if the coaches emphasized with kids that weren't mission prone that the coaches won't be pressuring them into going.

I wonder if they will leave Heaps alone.

[TripletDaddy]

Of the players that BYU recruited that went elsewhere I think Bronco is right:

Christian Tupou- no mission
Uona Kaveinga- no mission
Stanley Havili- no mission
Jordan Cameron- no mission
John Martinez- definitely no mission
(I am starting to see a trend, how can you support a school that is so against your church? )

SIone Fua- max hall mini mission
David Kruger- no mission
Sealver Siliaga- no mission
Derek Tuimauga- no mission
Simi Fili- no mission
Mau Nomani- is currently on a mission
Will Tukuafu- served a mission

Looks like if you stay away from USC and Utah you are just fine in regards to a mission.

Bronco is right (statistically) but what does he gain by pointing it out? I would be interested if you could list all the players that have gone to BYU that did not go on missions (or at least a percentage). Our current QB quit his mission. It just doesn't seem relevant to the football discussion because attendance at BYU doesn't even guarantee a mission.

As for trends, your list's strongest trend seems to be linked more to culture/ethnicity, not school.

Ironically, look at the success of SC and Utah over the past 5 or so years. Is BYU really being blessed for all the missionary service? I wish fewer of our football players went on missions, not more.

[DU Ute]

Here's a list of RMs in Division 1 FBS, did Bronco really only recruit one of them?:

UTAH

Matt Black / Utah / Washington (Pine View HS) / Fr. / DL / Has not played

Bryce Bennion / Utah / South Jordan (Bingham HS) / Fr. / DB / Has not played

Tony Bergstrom / Utah / Salt Lake City (Skyline HS) / Fr. / OL / Backup

Greg Bird / Utah / Mesa, Ariz. / Fr. / LB / Played in 4 games

Daniel Bukarau / Utah / Kailua, Hawaii / So. / OL / Played in 1 game

TJ Canales / Utah / Layton (Northridge HS) / Fr. / QB / Has not played

Tysen Clements / Utah / Salt Lake City (Skyline HS) / So. / DB / Played in 9 games

Brad Clifford / Utah / Salt Lake City (Olympus HS) / So. / TE / Played in 1 game

Tage Clifford / Utah / Roy (Northridge HS) / Fr. / WR / Has not played

Christian Cox / Utah / Bountiful (Bountiful HS) / So. / DL / Played in 4 games

Grayson Dart / Utah / Layton (Northridge HS) / Fr. / DB / Has not played

Tatum Drecksel / Utah / Salt Lake City (West HS) / Jr. / DL / Played in 6 games

Afa Garrigan / Utah / Hauula, Hawaii / So. / LB / Backup

Paul Kruger / Utah / Orem (Timpanogos HS) / So. / DE / Starter

Nick Liefting / Utah / West Valley City (Hunter HS) / Fr. / DB / Has not played

Ben Macey / Utah / Salt Lake City (Logan HS) / Fr. / WR / Has not played

Trevor Moss / Utah / Sandy (Jordan HS) / Jr. / RB / Played in 8 games

Clint Mower / Utah / Alpine (Lone Peak HS) / Sr. / DS / Starter

Jordan Nelson / Utah / Idaho Falls / Fr. / OL / Has not played

RJ Rice / Utah / Salt Lake City (Olympus HS) / Sr. / DB / Backup

Collin Robinson / Utah / Draper (Alta HS) / So. / WR / Has not played

Colt Sampson / Utah / Pleasant Grove (Pl. Grove HS) / Sr. / TE / Starter

Corey Seiuli / Utah / Provo (Timpveiw HS) / Sr. / OL / Backup

Tevita Stevens / Utah / Hemet, Calif. / Fr. / DL / Has not played

Junior Tui'one / Utah / Hawthorne, Calif. / So. / DE / Played in 3 games

Zach Wade / Utah / Salt Lake City (Cottonwood HS) / So. / WR / Has not played

Mike Wright / Utah / Bountiful (Bountiful HS) / Jr. / LB / Starter

UTAH STATE

Adrian Bybee / Utah State / Pocatello / Jr. / DB / Injured

Ben Calderwood / Utah State / Smithfield (Sky View HS) / Sr. / DE / Starter

Andy Carlsen / Utah State / Coalville (N. Summit HS) / So. / LB Played in 9 games

Leti Faitala / Utah State / Kahuku, Hawaii / Jr. / DL / Has not played

Chase Griffiths / Utah State Heber City (Wasatch HS) / Jr. / WR / Has not played

Jake Hobbs / Utah State / Preston, Idaho / So. / DE / Has not played

Derek Hoke / Utah State / Pl. Grove (Pl. Grove HS) / Sr. / OL Starter

Eric Moats / Utah State / Denver / Fr. / WR / Has not played

OREGON

Mark Asper / Oregon / Rexburg, Idaho / So. / OL / Backup

Brandon Bair / Oregon / St. Anthony, Idaho / So. / DL / Backup

Will Tukuafu / Oregon / Salt Lake City (East HS) / Jr. / DL / Starter

OREGON STATE

Sioeli Nau / Oregon State / Spanish Fork (Sp. Fork HS) / Jr. / DT / Backup

Walker Vave / Oregon State / Laie, Hawaii / So. / LB / Played in 3 games

OTHER SCHOOLS

Jacob Bower / Tulsa / Meridian, Idaho / So. / QB / Backup

Dallas Dobbs / Boise State / Las Vegas / Sr. / LB / Starter

Inoke Funaki / Hawaii / Laie, Hawaii / Jr. / QB / Backup

Aaron Gilbert / San Jose State / Half Moon Bay, Calif. / Jr. / DT / Played in 8 games

Andrew Hatch / LSU / Henderson, Nev. / So. / QB / Injured

Jamar Hunt / UTEP / Mesa, Ariz. / Sr. / TE / Starter

Ben Olson / UCLA / Thousand Oaks, Calif. / Sr. / QB / Injured

Ben Woodard / Washington State / Cheney, Wash. / Sr. / TE / Starter

Ryan Worthen / UNLV / Las Vegas / Sr. / TE / Starter

[byu71]

I think this can probably go unsaid, though I guess it is nice to give our newer members a heads up.

There isn't anyone who has read a BYU sports board that doesn't know how I feel about "mullah's" and "aluf"s and as long as they have or try to have an undue influence on BYU athletics, they will remain an obsession.

[whoneedscorners?]

No. He boozed it up on a recruiting visit to BYU, was told he could sit out a year like Kyle Van Noy did for his DUI indiscretions, and declined the offer. It's that simple.

Then why weren't players that are already in the program that were involved given a similar punishment?

[Indy Coug]

You are a reasonable guy. Don't you think it would be nice if we could get some of these no mission guys. Would it be OK if the coaches emphasized with kids that weren't mission prone that the coaches won't be pressuring them into going.

I wonder if they will leave Heaps alone.

We have plenty of no mission guys.

[SeattleUte]

What's wrong with just saying he wishes Teo well and that episode of BYU athletics is over? Every school loses scores of recruiting battles and I've never seen a coach, great or awful, look back. It's really sordid seeing this grown man obsessively slander a kid.

I really think Bronco is a terrible human being. His ceaseless slandering of this kid, his false piety, really say it all. His hypcorisy is worse than the most abhorent of televangelists. Karma is going to annihilate him, if there is universal justice.

[Indy Coug]

Here's a list of RMs in Division 1 FBS, did Bronco really only recruit one of them?:

I believe the comment is restricted to BCS schools only. Even if it wasn't stated clearly in this article, that is what the filtering criteria really is.

[beefytee]

Here's a list of RMs in Division 1 FBS, did Bronco really only recruit one of them?:


Ben Olson / UCLA / Thousand Oaks, Calif. / Sr. / QB / Injured

He can't be on that list. He went to BYU before his mission.

If they went to BYU before their mission or he recruited them after their mission (and not before) they don't support your point.

[TripletDaddy]

What's wrong with just saying he wishes Teo well and that episode of BYU athletics is over? Every school loses scores of recruiting battles and I've never seen a coach, great or awful, look back. It's really sordid seeing this grown man obsessively slander a kid.

I really think Bronco is a terrible human being. His ceaseless slandering of this kid, his false piety, really say it all. His hypcorisy is worse than the most abhorent of televangelists. Karma is going to annihilate him, if there is universal justice.

I wish Bronco would spend less time talking about lost recruits and spend more time filming the football promo video for the new season. What's this year's slogan?.......

[SeattleUte]

Has Bronco ever accepted personal responsiblity for the big (illegal) kegar on his big recruiting weekend last fall? That was all the kids' fault I guess. I bet Teo's dad is too classy to say that that was good enough reason to send his kid to Notre Dame, a school with real honor.

[cougjunkie]

Here's a list of RMs in Division 1 FBS, did Bronco really only recruit one of them?:

UTAH

Matt Black / Utah / Washington (Pine View HS) / Fr. / DL / Has not played

Bryce Bennion / Utah / South Jordan (Bingham HS) / Fr. / DB / Has not played

Tony Bergstrom / Utah / Salt Lake City (Skyline HS) / Fr. / OL / Backup

Greg Bird / Utah / Mesa, Ariz. / Fr. / LB / Played in 4 games

Daniel Bukarau / Utah / Kailua, Hawaii / So. / OL / Played in 1 game

TJ Canales / Utah / Layton (Northridge HS) / Fr. / QB / Has not played

Tysen Clements / Utah / Salt Lake City (Skyline HS) / So. / DB / Played in 9 games

Brad Clifford / Utah / Salt Lake City (Olympus HS) / So. / TE / Played in 1 game

Tage Clifford / Utah / Roy (Northridge HS) / Fr. / WR / Has not played

Christian Cox / Utah / Bountiful (Bountiful HS) / So. / DL / Played in 4 games

Grayson Dart / Utah / Layton (Northridge HS) / Fr. / DB / Has not played

Tatum Drecksel / Utah / Salt Lake City (West HS) / Jr. / DL / Played in 6 games

Afa Garrigan / Utah / Hauula, Hawaii / So. / LB / Backup

Paul Kruger / Utah / Orem (Timpanogos HS) / So. / DE / Starter

Nick Liefting / Utah / West Valley City (Hunter HS) / Fr. / DB / Has not played

Ben Macey / Utah / Salt Lake City (Logan HS) / Fr. / WR / Has not played

Trevor Moss / Utah / Sandy (Jordan HS) / Jr. / RB / Played in 8 games

Clint Mower / Utah / Alpine (Lone Peak HS) / Sr. / DS / Starter

Jordan Nelson / Utah / Idaho Falls / Fr. / OL / Has not played

RJ Rice / Utah / Salt Lake City (Olympus HS) / Sr. / DB / Backup

Collin Robinson / Utah / Draper (Alta HS) / So. / WR / Has not played

Colt Sampson / Utah / Pleasant Grove (Pl. Grove HS) / Sr. / TE / Starter

Corey Seiuli / Utah / Provo (Timpveiw HS) / Sr. / OL / Backup

Tevita Stevens / Utah / Hemet, Calif. / Fr. / DL / Has not played

Junior Tui'one / Utah / Hawthorne, Calif. / So. / DE / Played in 3 games

Zach Wade / Utah / Salt Lake City (Cottonwood HS) / So. / WR / Has not played

Mike Wright / Utah / Bountiful (Bountiful HS) / Jr. / LB / Starter

UTAH STATE

Adrian Bybee / Utah State / Pocatello / Jr. / DB / Injured

Ben Calderwood / Utah State / Smithfield (Sky View HS) / Sr. / DE / Starter

Andy Carlsen / Utah State / Coalville (N. Summit HS) / So. / LB Played in 9 games

Leti Faitala / Utah State / Kahuku, Hawaii / Jr. / DL / Has not played

Chase Griffiths / Utah State Heber City (Wasatch HS) / Jr. / WR / Has not played

Jake Hobbs / Utah State / Preston, Idaho / So. / DE / Has not played

Derek Hoke / Utah State / Pl. Grove (Pl. Grove HS) / Sr. / OL Starter

Eric Moats / Utah State / Denver / Fr. / WR / Has not played

OREGON

Mark Asper / Oregon / Rexburg, Idaho / So. / OL / Backup

Brandon Bair / Oregon / St. Anthony, Idaho / So. / DL / Backup

Will Tukuafu / Oregon / Salt Lake City (East HS) / Jr. / DL / Starter

OREGON STATE

Sioeli Nau / Oregon State / Spanish Fork (Sp. Fork HS) / Jr. / DT / Backup

Walker Vave / Oregon State / Laie, Hawaii / So. / LB / Played in 3 games

OTHER SCHOOLS

Jacob Bower / Tulsa / Meridian, Idaho / So. / QB / Backup

Dallas Dobbs / Boise State / Las Vegas / Sr. / LB / Starter

Inoke Funaki / Hawaii / Laie, Hawaii / Jr. / QB / Backup

Aaron Gilbert / San Jose State / Half Moon Bay, Calif. / Jr. / DT / Played in 8 games

Andrew Hatch / LSU / Henderson, Nev. / So. / QB / Injured

Jamar Hunt / UTEP / Mesa, Ariz. / Sr. / TE / Starter

Ben Olson / UCLA / Thousand Oaks, Calif. / Sr. / QB / Injured

Ben Woodard / Washington State / Cheney, Wash. / Sr. / TE / Starter

Ryan Worthen / UNLV / Las Vegas / Sr. / TE / Starter

On that list, yeah. Tukuafu is the only one and he was recruited after his mission.

[DU Ute]

I believe the comment is restricted to BCS schools only. Even if it wasn't stated clearly in this article, that is what the filtering criteria really is.

I guess that makes it more plausible, but there's no indication of it being restricted to BCS schools in the interview.

He can't be on that list. He went to BYU before his mission.

If they went to BYU before their mission or he recruited them after their mission (and not before) they don't support your point.

My bad, this is just a cut and paste job from an article about these RMs.