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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    In a way I started on that career path. It was what I always wanted to do. Mrs. Hot Lunch wouldn't have it though.
    I always thought being a football coach would be an awesome job, until I got to know the Crowton family. No salary would be worth it for me.
    Get confident, stupid
    -landpoke

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
      I read this last night. I don't think that Bronco should have said hardly anything at all about it. It doesn't do him any favors talking about a recruit to the media after he chose to go to another school.

      All I think Bronco should have said on the subject was something like "Manti chose to play football for Notre Dame and we here at BYU wish him the best of luck in both his personal and football career."
      One of the many dumb things about this blurb is that Bronco isn't just taking a gratuitous swipe at Manti, he is taking one at all the other LDS recruits that went elsewhere.

      Bronco is blowing smoke. There are plenty of LDS players that go to BYU and do not go on missions. Manti choose to not come to BYU because he didn't want to compete for a starting spot (immaturity on his part) and because a football program like Notre Dame is much cooler football program (practical decision on his part), national fanbase, on national TV most of the year, doesn't have to accomplish much to get into a BCS game, etc. My guess is that Manti also chose to go elsewhere because Bronco rubbed him the wrong way.

      I hope all of our awesome returned missionary linebackers are effective against Oklahoma because I have a feeling we will need as many 5 star linebackers in Dallas as possible.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        One of the many dumb things about this blurb is that Bronco isn't just taking a gratuitous swipe at Manti, he is taking one at all the other LDS recruits that went elsewhere.

        Bronco is blowing smoke. There are plenty of LDS players that go to BYU and do not go on missions. Manti choose to not come to BYU because he didn't want to compete for a starting spot (immaturity on his part) and because a football program like Notre Dame is much cooler football program (practical decision on his part), national fanbase, on national TV most of the year, doesn't have to accomplish much to get into a BCS game, etc. My guess is that Manti also chose to go elsewhere because Bronco rubbed him the wrong way.

        I hope all of our awesome returned missionary linebackers are effective against Oklahoma because I have a feeling we will need as many 5 star linebackers in Dallas as possible.

        Bronco isn't so dumb either. This kind of stuff really pumps up the part of the fan base that would "rather lose with integrity than win without it". It also plays into the resentment people have for BYU because of the, "we are more moral than the rest of you."

        I wonder how the integrity base would have reacted if he had said, "some LDS kids just don't like the overbearing, controlling, babysitting atmoshpere that is here at BYU."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
          I always thought being a football coach would be an awesome job, until I got to know the Crowton family. No salary would be worth it for me.
          Not a bright shining moment for our fanbase. Regardless of his shortcomings as a head coach, the fanbase behavior towards him and his family was pretty pathetic.
          Everything in life is an approximation.

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          • #20
            I wonder what Andrew rich thought about the comment where he said they will play the best players regardless of class.
            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

            -Rick Majerus

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
              Not a bright shining moment for our fanbase. Regardless of his shortcomings as a head coach, the fanbase behavior towards him and his family was pretty pathetic.
              Especially the group that wanted his head because he let people into the program that embarassed BYU.

              I wonder if those same people are after the heads of those who let the "notorious seminary principal" into the program. "mullahs" and "aluf's" are an obsession of mine.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                I wonder what Andrew rich thought about the comment where he said they will play the best players regardless of class.
                While coughing he said bullshit.
                "Take it to the Bank"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                  I wonder what Andrew rich thought about the comment where he said they will play the best players regardless of class.
                  I have heard, not from any insiders, that a lot of politics goes into who gets to play. That the coaches actually hear from Bishops all the way up to GA's. Can anyone with more inside knowledge confirm or deny that.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                    I wonder what Andrew rich thought about the comment where he said they will play the best players regardless of class.
                    He probably looked at all of the true freshmen that Bronco has played on defense over the years and realized that Bronco wasn't who he had issues with.
                    Everything in life is an approximation.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      One of the many dumb things about this blurb is that Bronco isn't just taking a gratuitous swipe at Manti, he is taking one at all the other LDS recruits that went elsewhere.

                      Bronco is blowing smoke. There are plenty of LDS players that go to BYU and do not go on missions. Manti choose to not come to BYU because he didn't want to compete for a starting spot (immaturity on his part) and because a football program like Notre Dame is much cooler football program (practical decision on his part), national fanbase, on national TV most of the year, doesn't have to accomplish much to get into a BCS game, etc. My guess is that Manti also chose to go elsewhere because Bronco rubbed him the wrong way.

                      I hope all of our awesome returned missionary linebackers are effective against Oklahoma because I have a feeling we will need as many 5 star linebackers in Dallas as possible.
                      Of the players that BYU recruited that went elsewhere I think Bronco is right:

                      Christian Tupou- no mission
                      Uona Kaveinga- no mission
                      Stanley Havili- no mission
                      Jordan Cameron- no mission
                      John Martinez- definitely no mission
                      (I am starting to see a trend, how can you support a school that is so against your church? )

                      SIone Fua- max hall mini mission
                      David Kruger- no mission
                      Sealver Siliaga- no mission
                      Derek Tuimauga- no mission
                      Simi Fili- no mission
                      Mau Nomani- is currently on a mission
                      Will Tukuafu- served a mission

                      Looks like if you stay away from USC and Utah you are just fine in regards to a mission.
                      *Banned*

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        I have heard, not from any insiders, that a lot of politics goes into who gets to play. That the coaches actually hear from Bishops all the way up to GA's. Can anyone with more inside knowledge confirm or deny that.
                        All coaches talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to depth charts and PT, but the Rich/Fowler saga was egregious as it comes, especially when you guys desperately needed a playmaker in the secondary. Rich, IMO was that guy.
                        "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                        "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                        "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                        -Rick Majerus

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                          Not a bright shining moment for our fanbase. Regardless of his shortcomings as a head coach, the fanbase behavior towards him and his family was pretty pathetic.
                          I wasn't even talking about how his family was treated in Utah Co. I was meaning the demands of the job. It was insane how much he worked. Maren is a saint of a woman.
                          Get confident, stupid
                          -landpoke

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                            I have heard, not from any insiders, that a lot of politics goes into who gets to play. That the coaches actually hear from Bishops all the way up to GA's. Can anyone with more inside knowledge confirm or deny that.
                            I haven't heard anything like this. The one thing that I do know is that if you are one of Coach Hill's "guys" you are going to play. See last years secondary to back up this up.

                            Now "guys" doesn't necessarily mean you are the best one for the job athletically.
                            "Take it to the Bank"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              Of the players that BYU recruited that went elsewhere I think Bronco is right:

                              Christian Tupou- no mission
                              Uona Kaveinga- no mission
                              Stanley Havili- no mission
                              Jordan Cameron- no mission
                              John Martinez- definitely no mission
                              (I am starting to see a trend, how can you support a school that is so against your church? )

                              SIone Fua- max hall mini mission
                              David Kruger- no mission
                              Sealver Siliaga- no mission
                              Derek Tuimauga- no mission
                              Simi Fili- no mission
                              Mau Nomani- is currently on a mission
                              Will Tukuafu- served a mission

                              Looks like if you stay away from USC and Utah you are just fine in regards to a mission.
                              Personally, I wish these kids would think BYU was a great place to go, even if they had no intentions of going on a mission. Is BYU really, as some people see it, including my sister, really for only the "elite" of the church.

                              This class thing really has a lot of people in the church bugged. It still amazes me how some people are shocked that there are good active members of the church that can't stand BYU.

                              Thinking of it. I played golf yesterday with three very active, card carrying mormons. They all hate BYU. Arrogant dicks is the word they use. Funny thing is though, they have kids who attend BYU.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                                "mullahs" and "aluf's" are an obsession of mine.
                                I think this can probably go unsaid, though I guess it is nice to give our newer members a heads up.

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