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[Shaka]

No. This is what I said.



This is what Grimes said:



If that doesn't align, I don't know what does.

Go back and read my original post.

[Sizzle]

Actually you and Surfah were minimizing by calling play calling overrated. I stated you it's not overrated because game prep for a coordinator and calling plays on game day are really part of the same deal and that oftentimes the first fifteen or twenty plays are scripted during that prep. Essentially all that prep is to ensure that you don't crap the bed calling the plays on game day. Grimes didn't call that, "overrated". Grimes called it a, "Big Deal".

No. This is what I said.

But the prep work that goes into making those decisions Sunday through Friday is a hell of a lot more important than pulling the trigger on Saturday. Not saying it isn’t important. And some guys are better at it than others. But yeah, the game prep, the film work, the in game adjustments are things I’ve either seen first hand with Grimes at BYU or seen the results of teams he’s been on to feel like he will be just fine.

This is what Grimes said:

I would say in terms of the play-calling stuff... I don’t want to minimize that responsibility at all because I recognize it’s a big deal and there are a lot of pressure calls made, but I’ve always believed a lot of the calls are made on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday throughout the week as you’re game-planning.

If that doesn't align, I don't know what does.

[Sizzle]

Well it wasn't there when I was typing. Creek just hit "post" before me...

I think he's saying "my point exactly."

Not "why did you post it twice."

[Shaka]

So I'm not triggered? He's saying the same thing I was saying. Actually calling the plays on Saturday is overrated. That work is done in game prep.

You really are dense. No wonder you're single.

Actually you and Surfah were minimizing by calling play calling overrated. I stated you it's not overrated because game prep for a coordinator and calling plays on game day are really part of the same deal and that oftentimes the first fifteen or twenty plays are scripted during that prep. Essentially all that prep is to ensure that you don't crap the bed calling the plays on game day. Grimes didn't call that, "overrated". Grimes called it a, "Big Deal".

[Eddie]

Ahem.

Well it wasn't there when I was typing. Creek just hit "post" before me...

[Sizzle]

Hmmm, I can't believe that guy agrees with me. Someone hide this from Surfah and Sizzle so they aren't triggered.

So I'm not triggered? He's saying the same thing I was saying. Actually calling the plays on Saturday is overrated. That work is done in game prep.

[Shaka]

Here is what Grimes himself said about play-calling vs. game planning:



http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rou...28682e.html?33

Hmmm, I can't believe that guy agrees with me. Someone hide this from Surfah and Sizzle so they aren't triggered.

[Surfah]

Here is what Grimes himself said about play-calling vs. game planning:



http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rou...28682e.html?33

Ahem.

[Eddie]

Here's a pretty good interview with Grimes from a guy in LA.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rou...28682e.html?33

An excerpt - just for Shaka and Sizzle to debate:

I would say in terms of the play-calling stuff... I don’t want to minimize that responsibility at all because I recognize it’s a big deal and there are a lot of pressure calls made, but I’ve always believed a lot of the calls are made on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday throughout the week as you’re game-planning.

[creekster]

Here is what Grimes himself said about play-calling vs. game planning:

What will your approach be as a play-caller and running an offense?

I would say in terms of the play-calling stuff... I don’t want to minimize that responsibility at all because I recognize it’s a big deal and there are a lot of pressure calls made, but I’ve always believed a lot of the calls are made on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday throughout the week as you’re game-planning.

I’ve been in a lot of situations where it’s fourth-and-1 and somebody says, ‘Hey, Grimey, what do you want here?’ That’s as big of a call as there is anywhere in the game. If I can make a call in that situation with a conference championship or national championship at stake, I feel like I can make any call. But I do know there will be greater responsibility and a different role in doing that full time. I think I’ll be the same guy I am right now, which is a guy that believes in developing the culture and mindset of the group first. My first order of business will be to develop an offense that’s tough, hard-working and completely committed to one another. I believe if you have guys that are passionate about the game then they’ll do all the things necessary to be successful. If they love each other, they’re going to play hard, lift hard and study their game plan and they’re going to be ready when the time is ready for them to go.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rou...28682e.html?33

[originalsocal]

I'm hopeful, and on record as stating the hire was exciting for the exact reasons you cite above, I'm just not Lone Peak three hopeful ... I'm not a zoob.

WTF are you talking about? I see no one on this board who believes that "Grimes is single-handedly going to save BYU football and deliver us to the promised land". Are we excited....hell YES! But I have yet to see a single poster say such a thing...except you. I'll be beside myself if we can somehow get to 6 wins next year. The Grimes hire gives me hope that we MIGHT get there. This is why we can't have nice things...we get something good and someone pisses all over it.

Good hell man, if Topper is telling you that you are too negative, you might want to reassess things. You accuse us of being "zoobs", but what is more zoob than complaining incessantly about something that is potentially good for us?

This is a great hire, if anything Funk is not happy. Take solace in that at least.

[tooblue]

TB, it is part of the exegetical process.

Grimes may or may not succeed, but he has experience at the college level with successful programs, and his bosses have deemed him competent enough to continue to hire him. That should be a sign that he has the ability to do something right.

As others have shown game-planning is something the entire staff does, and actually play-calling is something of less value.

He brings a fresh start, he's not LDS, and we believe he can install some discipline. By all accounts he's also a good recruiter. Could we have hired the top college OC? No.

We have a right to be hopeful while acknowledging there is a risk. You take over as the Board Pessimist.

I'm hopeful, and on record as stating the hire was exciting for the exact reasons you cite above, I'm just not Lone Peak three hopeful ... I'm not a zoob.

[Shaka]

As responsibilities of being the offensive coordinator, sure. But those components are definitely different skills, of which, play calling is more overrated than game preparation. Glad to see you've seen the light and agree.

Whatevs. I say potato and you say potahto. You enjoy being a contrarian. As for me I'll stick with reality. The ability to be an effective play caller in games is deeply affected by game prep. If you fail at either you're toast. They go hand in hand.

[Topper]

You guys are awesome ... lol ... Sizzle shot video of practices, so like he knows knows, you know, and Moliere? he doesn't even watch games, but hey, if the best you can do is mock and make fun of someone who isn't buying your zoobness, that's cool, I get it. Let's see if I can get behind zoobiness to the max logic: Grimes is single-handedly going to save BYU football and deliver us to the promised land ... oh, and when is the lone peak three going to get us to the final four?

TB, it is part of the exegetical process.

Grimes may or may not succeed, but he has experience at the college level with successful programs, and his bosses have deemed him competent enough to continue to hire him. That should be a sign that he has the ability to do something right.

As others have shown game-planning is something the entire staff does, and actually play-calling is something of less value.

He brings a fresh start, he's not LDS, and we believe he can install some discipline. By all accounts he's also a good recruiter. Could we have hired the top college OC? No.

We have a right to be hopeful while acknowledging there is a risk. You take over as the Board Pessimist.

[Jeff Lebowski]

lol. tooblue hasn't changed.