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[frank ryan]

Don’t know how I feel about Roderick coaching, but he can’t do anything but bolster our recruiting. I hope he can help keep Romney in the fold.

[Green Monstah]

How does Pugh tie in here? Any history with BYU?

I'm interested to see if Harvey Unga ends up getting the RB position. No way they were keeping Mahe.

Played for Grimes at Auburn. Coached with Grimes at LSU. He's 29 years old.

[Shaka]

Bad form. The only 3-ways with which Shaka gets involved occur at Lake Powell and do not include another dude.

This is correct.


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[The_Tick]

How does Pugh tie in here? Any history with BYU?

I'm interested to see if Harvey Unga ends up getting the RB position. No way they were keeping Mahe.

[Green Monstah]

I love this thread. Any topic that entices surfah, sizzle, and shaka, to get into a three-way debate is awesome.

Bad form. The only 3-ways with which Shaka gets involved occur at Lake Powell and do not include another dude.

[Green Monstah]

Roderick: Passing game coordinator
Ryan Pugh: Assistant (O-line, I'd imagine)
Fesi Sitake: Nepotism Czar
Steve Clark: TE coach
RB Coach TBD

I feel badly for Empey. His son has to be pissed.

[Shaka]

I love this thread. Any topic that entices surfah, sizzle, and shaka, to get into a three-way debate is awesome.

I smoked a cigarette after.

[Eddie]

C'mon Eddie. Not you too. In the quote he said he's been in plenty of situations, ones with national championships on the line even, where he's had to make the call. He's not minimizing it because he hasn't or can't do it. He's minimizing it because his 25 years of working under guys like Dirk Koetter, Dan Hawkins, RC Slocum, Gus Malzahan, Frank Beamer, Les Miles, Cam Cameron, CEO, etc. tell him it's not as important as what you do during the week.

You're reading me wrong. I'm not worried about Grimes play calling experience - or lack thereof. I'm not intending to imply that he is minimizing something that people should be worried about or saying it's a big deal. I'm not all that interested in that debate at all and tend to agree with Grimes, that a lot of the important stuff is handled during the week when doing game prep.

That discussion completely aside - I'm just saying that in the job environment, when someone is taking on a new job that requires them to demonstrate a specific skill they haven't demonstrated in the past, certain aspects are always minimized and/or compared to other skills the person does have.

When I interviewed (and was hired) for a position that had budget responsibilities, I was asked about my experience with a budget. I didn't have any in the business world - but I could give my basic philosophy on budgeting, relate my personal finance experience, and minimize the challenge or difficulty in that role I was applying for.

We see it in politics all the time. Someone doesn't have this experience - but they have other experience that they relate to it in order to elicit a feeling of competence.

[happyone]

This last few page have been entertaining, but I really need to get back to work

[BigFatMeanie]

I love this thread. Any topic that entices surfah, sizzle, and shaka, to get into a three-way debate is awesome.

[Surfah]

Of course he did. He just got hired for a job that requires play calling and he's never done it before.

When I'm applying for a job that includes some responsibilities I've never had before, I'm going to play up similar things I've done and downplay the importance of the things I haven't done. I think that should be expected from him, quite honestly.

C'mon Eddie. Not you too. In the quote he said he's been in plenty of situations, ones with national championships on the line even, where he's had to make the call. He's not minimizing it because he hasn't or can't do it. He's minimizing it because his 25 years of working under guys like Dirk Koetter, Dan Hawkins, RC Slocum, Gus Malzahan, Frank Beamer, Les Miles, Cam Cameron, CEO, etc. tell him it's not as important as what you do during the week.

[falafel]

Of course he did. He just got hired for a job that requires play calling and he's never done it before.

When I'm applying for a job that includes some responsibilities I've never had before, I'm going to play up similar things I've done and downplay the importance of the things I haven't done. I think that should be expected from him, quite honestly.

Why minimize it? He already got the job.

[Eddie]

Grimes just minimized play calling in that quote.

Of course he did. He just got hired for a job that requires play calling and he's never done it before.

When I'm applying for a job that includes some responsibilities I've never had before, I'm going to play up similar things I've done and downplay the importance of the things I haven't done. I think that should be expected from him, quite honestly.

[tooblue]

You lost this argument a few pages ago when you appealed to your own authority as a coach. Unfortunately for me, I didn't realize your reading comprehension was on par with your debate skills.

I didn't appeal to authority as a coach, but rather offered that comment in response to the "I read a book/blog*" about smart football and therefore "I know all" absurdity that is your argument ... lol ... at least Lebowski picked up on it, so kudos to Jeff.

Per the issue of reading comprehension, is it not strange that the very coach we are "debating" contradicts your "opinion?"

*Forgive me if it was Sizzle exclusively who is book smart about play calling in football.

[Surfah]

You're right: playing calling isn't a big deal, although from the new coordinator's own mouth he did say it is a "big deal." So, he doesn't even agree with you and is in fact the one carrying the torch. But, hey, I'm sure he'll do "just fine."

You lost this argument a few pages ago when you appealed to your own authority as a coach. Unfortunately for me, I didn't realize your reading comprehension was on par with your debate skills.