"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" - The Rivalry Thread

[All-American]

It’s not complicated. We have a large and active fanbase.

And wealthy.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't think it's money or favors from a donor. I think it's that BYU fans online respond very positively to any praise. I theorize that this is at least partially due to the inferiority complex thrust upon the fandom throughout the G5/Independence years. And of course the often negative views of the church. So this effect gets ramped up when the hosts say nice things about the church on top of the sports talk. It must be fairly lucrative to say nice things about BYU and Mormonism because I've watched several channels add BYU specific content and clickbait and I don't see them doing it for other teams. Sleepers, John Kurtz, Locked on Big 12 to name a few.

It’s not complicated. We have a large and active fanbase.

[Pelado]

I don't think it's money or favors from a donor. I think it's that BYU fans online respond very positively to any praise. I theorize that this is at least partially due to the inferiority complex thrust upon the fandom throughout the G5/Independence years. And of course the often negative views of the church. So this effect gets ramped up when the hosts say nice things about the church on top of the sports talk. It must be fairly lucrative to say nice things about BYU and Mormonism because I've watched several channels add BYU specific content and clickbait and I don't see them doing it for other teams. Sleepers, John Kurtz, Locked on Big 12 to name a few.

I've seen Kurtz acknowledge that he's putting out more BYU content (relative to some of the other Big 12 fanbases) because of market forces. His content about BYU tends to get a lot more views than content about (at least some of the) other conference teams.

[wally]

To the chagrin of the Brethren.

I wouldn't involve the Brethren just yet. It's possible that BYU is paying Drake with free cougar tails or something non-monetary.

[wally]

Wow so now we're condemning people for following the 13th article of faith. Look inward, wally.

Bro, that hit me hard. Doing a lot of introspection RN. Can't stop thinking about this.

[SteelBlue]

The once or twice I watched that in this video, he did fall over himself to praise BYU, so I can see why you like him. lol! My guess is he is getting money or favors from some BYU donor or something.

I don't think it's money or favors from a donor. I think it's that BYU fans online respond very positively to any praise. I theorize that this is at least partially due to the inferiority complex thrust upon the fandom throughout the G5/Independence years. And of course the often negative views of the church. So this effect gets ramped up when the hosts say nice things about the church on top of the sports talk. It must be fairly lucrative to say nice things about BYU and Mormonism because I've watched several channels add BYU specific content and clickbait and I don't see them doing it for other teams. Sleepers, John Kurtz, Locked on Big 12 to name a few.

[YOhio]

I was obviously just messing around, but the Locked on group is EXORBITANTLY 'click baitey' without any real analysis. All fluff no stuff, if you catch my drift. Kind of like a bunch of middle schoolers half talking sports and half (inside) joking around. The locked on Utah guy is also just as annoying as the rest of them.

The once or twice I watched that in this video, he did fall over himself to praise BYU, so I can see why you like him. lol! My guess is he is getting money or favors from some BYU donor or something.

Wow so now we're condemning people for following the 13th article of faith. Look inward, wally.

[Green Monstah]

I was obviously just messing around, but the Locked on group is EXORBITANTLY 'click baitey' without any real analysis. All fluff no stuff, if you catch my drift. Kind of like a bunch of middle schoolers half talking sports and half (inside) joking around. The locked on Utah guy is also just as annoying as the rest of them.

The once or twice I watched that in this video, he did fall over himself to praise BYU, so I can see why you like him. lol! My guess is he is getting money or favors from some BYU donor or something.

To the chagrin of the Brethren.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I haven't watched the Utah version of the Locked On network (maybe there isn't one, I have never seen that channel), but I don't find their hosts to be "all fluff no stuff", at least not in comparison with any other podcaster or radio host that has to fill 30 minutes or more of content each day.

Re: BYU is probably paying Drake. Love the DJT-style non-response! Allege something ridiculous and unsupported and walk away. Very effective, and makes me want to stop commenting on this topic altogether!

Wally was joking. I laughed.

[falafel]

I was obviously just messing around, but the Locked on group is EXORBITANTLY 'click baitey' without any real analysis. All fluff no stuff, if you catch my drift. Kind of like a bunch of middle schoolers half talking sports and half (inside) joking around. The locked on Utah guy is also just as annoying as the rest of them.

The once or twice I watched that in this video, he did fall over himself to praise BYU, so I can see why you like him. lol! My guess is he is getting money or favors from some BYU donor or something.

I haven't watched the Utah version of the Locked On network (maybe there isn't one, I have never seen that channel), but I don't find their hosts to be "all fluff no stuff", at least not in comparison with any other podcaster or radio host that has to fill 30 minutes or more of content each day.

Re: BYU is probably paying Drake. Love the DJT-style non-response! Allege something ridiculous and unsupported and walk away. Very effective, and makes me want to stop commenting on this topic altogether!

[falafel]

Jon Wilner, you say?

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How can a guy miss two days of practice on a game week and "not be in question" as to whether he would play that week? Time to retire Kyle, you are slowing down buddy.

[wally]

Jon Wilner, you say?

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lol! good ol' Whit. He is such a dork on this kind of stuff. But, he's our dork and he has massively delivered for us in the past, so I wouldn't change a thing!!

[wally]

I watched that video. Despite his tilted head, I think Drake Toll does a good job.



I can see why you'd say that. But what about the non-stupid moron? He thinks you are a lame fanbase as well. And no fair saying "he's a stupid moron too" because you've missed that opportunity.

I was obviously just messing around, but the Locked on group is EXORBITANTLY 'click baitey' without any real analysis. All fluff no stuff, if you catch my drift. Kind of like a bunch of middle schoolers half talking sports and half (inside) joking around. The locked on Utah guy is also just as annoying as the rest of them.

The once or twice I watched that in this video, he did fall over himself to praise BYU, so I can see why you like him. lol! My guess is he is getting money or favors from some BYU donor or something.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Drake Toll can be super annoying. But he is one datapoint. Any big 12 specific media that is not affiliated with Utah has the same impression and mindset. Go browse any of the other locked on hosts or John Kurtz who does a great job covering the Big12 on his own channel. All of them agree Utah fans are the worst right now.

I know Utah fans pine for the soothing hackery of Jon Wilner but times have changed.

Jon Wilner, you say?

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[Omaha 680]

Drake Toll can be super annoying. But he is one datapoint. Any big 12 specific media that is not affiliated with Utah has the same impression and mindset. Go browse any of the other locked on hosts or John Kurtz who does a great job covering the Big12 on his own channel. All of them agree Utah fans are the worst right now.

I know Utah fans pine for the soothing hackery of Jon Wilner but times have changed.