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  • MarkGrace
    Grooveshark dick tease
    • Dec 2008
    • 31546

    #106
    Originally posted by Lost Student View Post
    The U of U is a utility and a poorly managed one at that. There are pockets of greatness but it is a generally mediocre place. We are seeing the gradual mean reversion back to reality.

    That said, it has an incredible brand and following and Cougs must acknowledge that U of U had a superior brand value recently. Whether the school will capitalize on this before it erodes is to be seen (but not looking likely at this point).

    I think there's validity to the idea that the U of U is deliberately scaling back its involvement in the escalating arms-race of college sports. I think the state of Utah considers the U football team to be an important rallying point for the residents all over the state, hence the attractiveness scheduling really bad teams out of conference. I also think the decision to keep Whitt and his staff, in many ways a smaller-profile coaching group than Bronco and co., shows a shift away from the normal obsession with growing athletic prestige.

    Dare we suggest that Utah is doing the right thing for a publicly funded state university with an academic mission by focusing on things other than athletics? The track-record is there (discontinuing men's track and field and cross country). I believe that, in a generation or two, the Utah football team will be in FCS or D-3.

    I think that's the direction they're going, but I suspect they'll stop short of FCS or lower. They may strive to be like UVU or the other small state schools: standing for something important and trying hard to be competitive, but accepting that they'll probably never be top-notch. That will take many people outside the U of U Board of Trustees a long time to accept.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the Utah Board of Regents sees Utah football (or basketball) the way most ardent Utah fans do. Time will tell.
    lol. Well done.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27843

      #107
      Originally posted by Lost Student View Post
      The U of U is a utility and a poorly managed one at that. There are pockets of greatness but it is a generally mediocre place. We are seeing the gradual mean reversion back to reality.

      That said, it has an incredible brand and following and Cougs must acknowledge that U of U had a superior brand value recently. Whether the school will capitalize on this before it erodes is to be seen (but not looking likely at this point).

      I think there's validity to the idea that the U of U is deliberately scaling back its involvement in the escalating arms-race of college sports. I think the state of Utah considers the U football team to be an important rallying point for the residents all over the state, hence the attractiveness scheduling really bad teams out of conference. I also think the decision to keep Whitt and his staff, in many ways a smaller-profile coaching group than Bronco and co., shows a shift away from the normal obsession with growing athletic prestige.

      Dare we suggest that Utah is doing the right thing for a publicly funded state university with an academic mission by focusing on things other than athletics? The track-record is there (discontinuing men's track and field and cross country). I believe that, in a generation or two, the Utah football team will be in FCS or D-3.

      I think that's the direction they're going, but I suspect they'll stop short of FCS or lower. They may strive to be like UVU or the other small state schools: standing for something important and trying hard to be competitive, but accepting that they'll probably never be top-notch. That will take many people outside the U of U Board of Trustees a long time to accept.

      Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the Utah Board of Regents sees Utah football (or basketball) the way most ardent Utah fans do. Time will tell.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #108
        Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
        He's riffing on dallasviking, LAUte and Solon there. Well done Lost Student.
        I'd like to see some of the originals so I can compare and contrast.
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        • Lost Student
          BAND!
          • Nov 2008
          • 4324

          #109
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          I'd like to see some of the originals so I can compare and contrast.
          Any similarities with those posts are highly coincidental.

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69601

            #110
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            I'd like to see some of the originals so I can compare and contrast.
            Start here and read the next few pages in the biggest thread on UB5:



            Comedy gold.
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            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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            • byu71
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22070

              #111
              Originally posted by Lost Student View Post
              The U of U is a utility and a poorly managed one at that. There are pockets of greatness but it is a generally mediocre place. We are seeing the gradual mean reversion back to reality.

              That said, it has an incredible brand and following and Cougs must acknowledge that U of U had a superior brand value recently. Whether the school will capitalize on this before it erodes is to be seen (but not looking likely at this point).

              I think there's validity to the idea that the U of U is deliberately scaling back its involvement in the escalating arms-race of college sports. I think the state of Utah considers the U football team to be an important rallying point for the residents all over the state, hence the attractiveness scheduling really bad teams out of conference. I also think the decision to keep Whitt and his staff, in many ways a smaller-profile coaching group than Bronco and co., shows a shift away from the normal obsession with growing athletic prestige.

              Dare we suggest that Utah is doing the right thing for a publicly funded state university with an academic mission by focusing on things other than athletics? The track-record is there (discontinuing men's track and field and cross country). I believe that, in a generation or two, the Utah football team will be in FCS or D-3.

              I think that's the direction they're going, but I suspect they'll stop short of FCS or lower. They may strive to be like UVU or the other small state schools: standing for something important and trying hard to be competitive, but accepting that they'll probably never be top-notch. That will take many people outside the U of U Board of Trustees a long time to accept.

              Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the Utah Board of Regents sees Utah football (or basketball) the way most ardent Utah fans do. Time will tell.
              Good points. Both schools have found a way to maximize revenue without putting the effort, zeal, priority that the football powerhouse's do. They are along for the ride.

              I don't know if I blame them. I personally am finding college football becoming polluted. There was some excitement in watching college students play. Knowing someone could come from the middle of the pack to have a great year. It is now becoming Pro football light and I don't watch pro football unless I have absolutely nothing to do.

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              • SCcoug
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 7625

                #112
                Originally posted by Lost Student View Post
                Any similarities with those posts are highly coincidental.

                http://www.utahby5.com/showthread.ph...ull=1#post5289
                Any update on FMUte's enthusiasm for BYU this year?

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                • creekster
                  It is NOT a monkey!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22661

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Start here and read the next few pages in the biggest thread on UB5:



                  Comedy gold.
                  I started but only made it halfway through the first post. I just don't care enough about the utes to actually wade through that crap.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69601

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Lost Student View Post
                    Any similarities with those posts are highly coincidental.

                    http://www.utahby5.com/showthread.ph...ull=1#post5289
                    Ha! A theme that has been repeated over there it appears.

                    That is such a classic thread. You have dallasviking claiming ties to UU royalty. And then you have FMCoug agreeing with LAU/dallasviking/solon on the inevitable demise of BYU sports with this little gem:

                    It pains me to say it but you may be right. And honestly, I am becoming a much more lukewarm fan as a result.

                    Who knows, maybe some day my moniker here will be FMUte.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Bo Diddley
                      Senior
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 18766

                      #115
                      Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                      He's riffing on dallasviking, LAUte and Solon there. Well done Lost Student.
                      Well that explains why my TIC meter was pinging.

                      So is FM a lost cause, or should one of the ninety & nine go after him?

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                      • smokymountainrain
                        Impressive Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22593

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Ha! A theme that has been repeated over there it appears.

                        That is such a classic thread. You have dallasviking claiming ties to UU royalty. And then you have FMCoug agreeing with LAU/dallasviking/solon on the inevitable demise of BYU sports with this little gem:



                        Oh. my. hell.
                        I'm like LeBron James.
                        -mpfunk

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                        • falafel
                          loves to talk on things
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 37928

                          #117
                          Mods, please just make the change to FM's username now. TIA.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                          Dig your own grave, and save!

                          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • MarkGrace
                            Grooveshark dick tease
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 31546

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Ha! A theme that has been repeated over there it appears.

                            That is such a classic thread. You have dallasviking claiming ties to UU royalty. And then you have FMCoug agreeing with LAU/dallasviking/solon on the inevitable demise of BYU sports with this little gem:



                            If he makes the name change I'd go with FMemiUte.
                            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                            • Flystripper
                              Degenerate Gambler
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14089

                              #119
                              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              If he makes the name change I'd go with FMemiUte.
                              Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                              • YOhio
                                Hipster Mode
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26165

                                #120
                                Lost Student is hilarious. Solon, LAU, dallasviking and FMUte deserve each other.

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