The death -- or at least transfromation -- of traditional rivalries?

[UtahDan]

See, this is what seems so disingenuous. How could you not care less about losing a rivalry? I call bullshit.

That's a very strange attitude.

Because what was gained was so much greater than what was lost that having the waa-boohoos about it is incredibly silly. It's like being sad that your hot new car doesn't have a broken down bucket seat that perfectly fits the contours of your ass the way the old one did.

[Omaha 680]

Because what was gained was so much greater than what was lost that having the waa-boohoos about it is incredibly silly. It's like being sad that your hot new car doesn't have a broken down bucket seat that perfectly fits the contours of your ass the way the old one did.

Are you saying we fit the contours of your ass? I'm flattered.

[UtahDan]

Are you saying we fit the contours of your ass? I'm flattered.

Some of you. Some.

[LA Ute]

I find it highly ironic that Ute fans here are waxing nostalgic over lost rivalries, as it's inarguable that the U of U (at either the insistence of the Pac 12, or as a consequence of membership) has been the primary executioner of the BYU-Utah rivalry.

It will always be nostalgic -- always would have been, no matter what -- and regardless of who or what caused it to end or change, I'll still miss it. I won't miss everything about it, and my life will be complete without it, but Thanksgiving weekends won't be the same, that's all.

Although I suppose you are enjoying that new rivalry with Colorado, with this nailbiter of a game to determine whether Colorado keeps sole possession of the conference basement.

I may be wrong but I think we finished ahead of Cal, WSU, and CU. So we sit at the top of the bottom third of the conference. We are reduced to saying "it could have been worse." Bleah.

Good luck against the Aggies.

[YOhio]

See, this is what seems so disingenuous. How could you not care less about losing a rivalry? I call bullshit.

He is beyond feeling.

[SeattleUte]

[Jeff Lebowski]

I certainly understand why Utah made the jump to the PAC12. They would have been crazy to turn it down. But when a Ute fan claims not even a twinge of regret over the loss of the BYU rivalry, I see only two possible explanations: 1) He is lying in an attempt to rub the change in the face of BYU fans, or 2) he never was a real fan in the first place. A fan without a soul, so to speak. Neither of these positions deserves any respect.

I understand the driving forces behind all the realignment. But please don't insult our intelligence by pretending that it comes without a cost.

[UtahDan]

I certainly understand why Utah made the jump to the PAC12. They would have been crazy to turn it down. But when a Ute fan claims not even a twinge of regret over the loss of the BYU rivalry, I see only two possible explanations: 1) He is lying in an attempt to rub the change in the face of BYU fans, or 2) he never was a real fan in the first place. A fan without a soul, so to speak. Neither of these positions deserves any respect.

I understand the driving forces behind all the realignment. But please don't insult our intelligence by pretending that it comes without a cost.

I'm sorry if it feels like its rubbing it in, that isn't my intention. I think you are just under estimating how enjoyable the new situation is for Utah fans. It makes it hard to feel bad about any aspect of it. I hope you guys make it into one of the Super conferences that I think are coming at some point. I think you will see what I mean. If you guys were playing a big 12 schedule you wouldn't care about the game with Utah. Not even a little. Trust me.

[The_Douger]

I'm sorry if it feels like its rubbing it in, that isn't my intention. I think you are just under estimating how enjoyable the new situation is for Utah fans. It makes it hard to feel bad about any aspect of it. I hope you guys make it into one of the Super conferences that I think are coming at some point. I think you will see what I mean. If you guys were playing a big 12 schedule you wouldn't care about the game with Utah. Not even a little. Trust me.

I still would.

Utah is our rival. I care about that.

[Mormon Red Death]

Honestly I wish utah and byu would play every year. When that happens doesn't really matter to me. I like the rivalry. I like beating byu. If byu was smart they would go to the pac12 and say:

We will be your other team for when Notre Dame plays USC and stanford. On a round robin schedule we will play home/home and neutral (ex.. ucla @ rose, @ lavell @ jack murphy satdium) with as many pac12 teams you want except Utah we play home and home.

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[Mormon Red Death]

Honestly I wish utah and byu would play every year. When that happens doesn't really matter to me. I like the rivalry. I like beating byu. If byu was smart they would go to the pac12 and say:

We will be your other team for when Notre Dame plays USC and stanford. On a round robin schedule we will play home/home and neutral (ex.. ucla @ rose, @ lavell @ jack murphy satdium) with as many pac12 teams you want except Utah we play home and home.

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With utah they could play home/home and vegas

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[The_Douger]

Honestly I wish utah and byu would play every year. When that happens doesn't really matter to me. I like the rivalry. I like beating byu. If byu was smart they would go to the pac12 and say:

We will be your other team for when Notre Dame plays USC and stanford. On a round robin schedule we will play home/home and neutral (ex.. ucla @ rose, @ lavell @ jack murphy satdium) with as many pac12 teams you want except Utah we play home and home.

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That would be awesome, but that hasn't seemed to be the PAC's attitude towards BYU lately. I don't get the impression that the PAC wants to throw BYU a bone ever. I would love if that was the case, however.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm sorry if it feels like its rubbing it in, that isn't my intention. I think you are just under estimating how enjoyable the new situation is for Utah fans. It makes it hard to feel bad about any aspect of it. I hope you guys make it into one of the Super conferences that I think are coming at some point. I think you will see what I mean. If you guys were playing a big 12 schedule you wouldn't care about the game with Utah. Not even a little. Trust me.

So option #2 then. Gotcha.

And for the record, I view the loss of the Texas vs A&M rivalry the same way. There are some fans on both sides of that pretending not to care.

[UtahDan]

So option #2 then. Gotcha.

And for the record, I view the loss of the Texas vs A&M rivalry the same way. There are some fans on both sides of that pretending not to care.

Very different situation. Plus if anyone is going to make the no true Scotsman argument I think its going to have to be a Utah fan.

[pellegrino]

BYUtv broadcasts replays of past Holy Wars on the Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving. They've been doing it for years, kind of as a way to pump up BYU fans/alumni for the big game. It seems like continuing to do so now is just a shadow of the past, a simulacrum produced in the hope that somehow, somewhere things will return as they once were.