Originally posted by CardiacCoug
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Going for it on fourth down
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What about going for it inside your own 40, 4 to go, and the score tied late in the game, as Whit did? Does the pupular science justify that?When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
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BYU went for it on 4th down at the end of the game (2pt conversion, but same difference) against Boise State.
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Yeah, turnover on downs and giving up one point is totally the same thing.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostBYU went for it on 4th down at the end of the game (2pt conversion, but same difference) against Boise State.
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I also think that not kicking from inside the 10 cost Oregon a crystal trophy 2 years ago against Auburn.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostWasu beat the Huskies because Leach was smart enough to kick a field goal for the tie near end of regulation rather than go for it on fourth and short. Whatever the lying stats say, that seems to happen every time,doesn't it.
I'm fine being aggressive between the 30s, but inside the 20 (10 if you have a kicker the caliber of the Ducks) you put the points on the board every time.Get confident, stupid
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There is a time for kicking fg and time to go for it. Punting is where going for it on 4th is more advantageous.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostWasu beat the Huskies because Leach was smart enough to kick a field goal for the tie near end of regulation rather than go for it on fourth and short. Whatever the lying stats say, that seems to happen every time,doesn't it.
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Whit thought he had the element of surprise. While it was technically going for it he was faking a punt instead of lining up in an offensive formation. This is different than the traditional going for it.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostWhat about going for it inside your own 40, 4 to go, and the score tied late in the game, as Whit did? Does the pupular science justify that?
Btw where is the condemnation for him on the fake fg?
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The examples you're providing are silly.Will donate kidney for B12 membership.
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Swish!
I bet Pete wishes he'd have kicked those two field goals. Shouldn't have panicked.
It's always stupid to go for it on fourth down unless you have to.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
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Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostSwish!
I bet Pete wishes he'd have kicked those two field goals. Shouldn't have panicked.
It's always stupid to go for it on fourth down unless you have to.
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You always take the points early in the game. On the last play I would have tried a field goal. You're in a dome. The odds of making a 65 yard field goal have to be better than the odds of completing a hail mary pass.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostSwish!
I bet Pete wishes he'd have kicked those two field goals. Shouldn't have panicked.
It's always stupid to go for it on fourth down unless you have to."The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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The tmq axiom is kick early go for it late.Originally posted by Non Sequitur View PostYou always take the points early in the game. On the last play I would have tried a field goal. You're in a dome. The odds of making a 65 yard field goal have to be better than the odds of completing a hail mary pass.
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Thought this video was good -- love this coach. Pulaski Academy never punts or kicks off deep and breaks Highland Park's huge winning streak.
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Although oddly enough Highland Park forced Pulaski to punt during the game.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostThought this video was good -- love this coach. Pulaski Academy never punts or kicks off deep and breaks Highland Park's huge winning streak.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...o-never-punts/
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I would be interested to know the data on scoring percentages from different starting field politions for college and the NFL to know if the numbers say a no-punt strategy would work above the high school level. My gut says it wouldn't. I think the only reason it is a viable strategy in high school is because the kicking game is generally awful.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostThought this video was good -- love this coach. Pulaski Academy never punts or kicks off deep and breaks Highland Park's huge winning streak.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...o-never-punts/
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