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but people will call for his head and as the frustration mounts this may be the moment that people single out as to why Bronco should go.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostNo. To call for his head, you have to look at his body of work, which makes for a more compelling case. But he is nowhere near being in danger of losing his job.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
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Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
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I dont think our d fares well with a 25 yard field. BSU moved the all etter than us all night Our offense was pathetic all night. You really think there's a better chance to win in overtime than there was on the 2-pt conversion? I dont see it.Originally posted by fusnik View PostYou never cease to amaze. The absolute right call....
Let's look at the game.
BSU offensively scores zero.
BYUs defense is lights out all game.
You have Doman as you OC.
BSU has a worse place kicker than BYU.
The correct and only call was to kick the field goal and let your d win the game in OT. Your defense has dominated, let them dominate in OT and give you a chance to win. Not your freshman QB on a rollout.
Good heavens.
Edit: btw, fusnik, thanks for not simply calling for my removal from the board. I have rubbed you the wrong way, and for that I'm sorry. If you knew me in person, I swear you'd think I was a nice guy.Last edited by Green Monstah; 09-20-2012, 11:17 PM.Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
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If I'm recalling the last drive correctly, Boise only needed a single first down to close out the game.
Although it's impossible to tell whether Boise would have just chosen to sit on the ball and take care of things in overtime had BYU just kicked the extra point, my feeling is that Boise would have been more inventive and tried to do it in regulation. If they failed and had to punt the ball back to BYU, so be it because they had held BYU in check most of the night. Because of BYU's lack of timeouts, Boise could have sat on the ball a couple plays if they found themselves in a 3rd and long situation after a mediocre 1st and 2nd downs and left BYU with little time on the clock.
It was a shockingly stupid thing to do and I don't even think one needs hindsight to see that.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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I was dumbfounded when they lined for a 2-point conversion. With the defensive domination we had all game, no timeouts and nearly 4 minutes to play. A PAT forces BSU to score points or settle for OT. A PAT dictates to BSU what they must do. Outs all the pressure over the next 4 minutes on BSU to score. That changes the game. If there was no time on the board, or we had timeouts, I can appreciate a gutsy call to go for 2, not like this one though. We declined to force BSU's play and went for the quick knockout punch, which left us open and puts us on our heels. Sure a quick 2 and a 1 pt lead would've been nice, but sometimes you gotta go with strategy, not cajones. It was a bad call, ballsy, but bad.Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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As soon as I saw he was going to 2, I did as USCoug did. And started saying "No no no no no no no no no no"!!!!
I praise him for being aggressive and showing confidence in the Offense but this was not the time.. It was time to lay the confience to your D who had pretty much assured a win by their outstanding goal line stance and holding BSU to 0 TD's on the Offense..
It seemed a bit desparate actually and that scares me as well...
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Before we scored, my 10 yo was saying "we have a great chance to win in overtime. Our D is totally stopping them and their field goal kicker sucks." When we were going for 2, he looked at me with the most horrible pained look on his face "Why are we going for 2? What is Bronco thinking??"
There you have it.
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I answered yes but I do have a question. Was the BSU kicker hurt or did petersen just not to play him? If they didnt have a kicker then you tie the game. If their kicker could make a 30 yrd fg in ot then you go for two."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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Doman's offense now appears to be: QB run for your life either left or right, look up for someone to throw it to, if not tuck it and run.Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostI liked the decision, but didn't like the play. There must be a better 2 point conversion play in our package than that.
This is exactly the same as my youth flag football team's offense.
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He missed an early field goal. Apparently they've had troubles in their first two games. Peterson went for it on every fourth down from there on out.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View PostI answered yes but I do have a question. Was the BSU kicker hurt or did petersen just not to play him? If they didnt have a kicker then you tie the game. If their kicker could make a 30 yrd fg in ot then you go for two.
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The logic of Bronco's coaching decisions makes me crazy. Bronco is conservative to a fault most times. The guy who punts inside the 40 elects to go for two when an extra point would tie and your defense has a chance to force OT. And then when that fails, decides that kicking off instead of the onsides kick was a better strategy. I need that :igiveup: smiley back."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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Nerdy but serious comment here. Coaches are not equipped to compute probabilities in their head on the fly. I've always wondered if it would make sense to have a full time or consultant statistician, maybe even a grad assistant from the stats department or something. And just stand their on the sideline and tell the coach nerdy stuff like advice on probabilities on stuff like going for 2, punting, onside kick, etc.Originally posted by Surfah View PostThe logic of Bronco's coaching decisions makes me crazy. Bronco is conservative to a fault most times. The guy who punts inside the 40 elects to go for two when an extra point would tie and your defense has a chance to force OT. And then when that fails, decides that kicking off instead of the onsides kick was a better strategy. I need that :igiveup: smiley back.
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Bill Simmons' VP of common sense.Originally posted by jay santos View PostNerdy but serious comment here. Coaches are not equipped to compute probabilities in their head on the fly. I've always wondered if it would make sense to have a full time or consultant statistician, maybe even a grad assistant from the stats department or something. And just stand their on the sideline and tell the coach nerdy stuff like advice on probabilities on stuff like going for 2, punting, onside kick, etc."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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