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  • Topper
    Pre-Historic Man
    • Nov 2011
    • 11764

    #1426
    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    Bronco is not a great head coach. I don't care what his record is. But he has maxed out and reached the ceiling of his potential as the head guy. He can be a great DC anywhere in D1, I am convinced of that. But he isn't the guy to take us to the next level. Unfortunately, the only guy that can we can't wrestle away from the hill. We have no other option, and that sucks.

    This season is now busted. Turn the offense over to Taysom and let him develop and get the experience he'll need so we're not completely embarrassed next year. We have a couple tough games left, but enough patsies to get to our pre-determined bowl.

    I love Doman. I do. But he's testing our relationship mightily right now. I didn't think it would take this long for him to get a handle on this offense. Running off Anae was a poor move. I'd take him back in a heartbeat. I'd take predictable over the option and these ill-devised run plays. That said, I still think Doman will get it. But that time needs to come sooner than later.
    Let Lark start and have Hill back him up. There is no upside to Riley.

    I can't stand Doman and running off Anae was stupid with a capital S.
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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    • MarkGrace
      Grooveshark dick tease
      • Dec 2008
      • 31546

      #1427
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Ox in the mire, eh.
      Ox needs to get in the mire more often. I've been telling him that for years.

      And speaking of which, any updates, Shaka?
      So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 37950

        #1428
        Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
        Sure, I agree. Sorry for the double negative. Colly was saying Whit made the right choice to go to Utah because they can recruit better athletes. I agree with you and meant that BYU has as good of athletes as Utah. But they made all kinds of mistakes that you would hope smart, older players wouldn't make. 10 false starts?
        Whoops, I read your post too quickly.

        The maddening part is that our coaching staff can't seem to get our players ready for this stupid game. We play relatively fine throughout the season, but we routinely shit the bed when we play Utah. The whole team turns to freshman who've never played in a game bigger than the 3A state playoffs.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • venkman
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 2199

          #1429
          Silver lining? We didn't lay down and die like last year. Our boys have heart, they just aren't coached well. I love Riley, kid has guts, he just ain't very good.
          "Remember to double tap"

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          • Colly Wolly
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1824

            #1430
            Originally posted by Topper View Post
            Whit is thanking his lucky stars, he doesn't have to deal with the boneheads in BYU administration and that damned HC.
            This is the first rational thing I have seen you post tonight. Congratulations!

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            • PaloAltoCougar
              Semper infra dignitatem
              • Nov 2008
              • 16932

              #1431
              I'm going to have a hard time drifting off to sleep, adrenaline and all. But I note it's a free Cinemax weekend, so I've got that going for me.

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              • MarkGrace
                Grooveshark dick tease
                • Dec 2008
                • 31546

                #1432
                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                Not biting. The BYU defense is excellent. BJ's call after the turnover was a great call.
                Was it? That almost seems to be the go-to play in that type of situation. Not sure how it caught us off-guard.
                So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                • Goatnapper'96
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10924

                  #1433
                  Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
                  The thing is, we HAVE been that good before! It just doesn't matter to the BYU powers that be anymore.
                  Not as good as many think, and our being good was mostly system. The winning led to decent but no better than what we have now. This program has been about as good as Bronco has it since the mid 80's. The thing missing is one year with talent like this where BYU doesn't shoot itself in the foot. But they are what they are. 2 things I don't think BYU is leveraging under Bronco is poise and OL play. Those should be two core strengths at BYU although coming back showed some poise.
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                  • Topper
                    Pre-Historic Man
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11764

                    #1434
                    Originally posted by CJF View Post
                    lol. Ok. So you're a slow learner. Understood.
                    What is there to learn?

                    Weber can't coach an Oline?
                    Doman is not ready to be an OC?
                    Bronco's teams are not emotionally or mentally ready?
                    Bronco rad off the back up kicker?

                    I learn slowly that it is foolhardy to believe BYU will defeat Utah.
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • venkman
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2199

                      #1435
                      Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                      Sure, I agree. Sorry for the double negative. Colly was saying Whit made the right choice to go to Utah because they can recruit better athletes. I agree with you and meant that BYU has as good of athletes as Utah. But they made all kinds of mistakes that you would hope smart, older players wouldn't make. 10 false starts?
                      I'm sure the crowd noise had a lot to do with it, but actually, yeah, that's no excuse.
                      "Remember to double tap"

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                      • falafel
                        loves to talk on things
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 37950

                        #1436
                        The thing that killed me is that I was under the impression that when Utah's corners inexplicably allow our best WR to slip behind the coverage for a 40+ yard play, we are supposed to win the game. How did the script get flipped?
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                        Dig your own grave, and save!

                        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Colly Wolly
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1824

                          #1437
                          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                          Not as good as many think, and our being good was mostly system. The winning led to decent but no better than what we have now. This program has been about as good as Bronco has it since the mid 80's. The thing missing is one year with talent like this where BYU doesn't shoot itself in the foot. But they are what they are. 2 things I don't think BYU is leveraging under Bronco is poise and OL play. Those should be two core strengths at BYU although coming back showed some poise.
                          BYU in the 80s is like Boise State of the last 5-6 years. Not as consistently superior, but the highs were higher.

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                          • SCcoug
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7625

                            #1438
                            Originally posted by falafel View Post
                            The thing that killed me is that I was under the impression that when Utah's corners inexplicably allow our best WR to slip behind the coverage for a 40+ yard play, we are supposed to win the game. How did the script get flipped?
                            We only had 8 seconds left not a minute something like 07.

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                            • DU Ute
                              RIP CUF
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 7393

                              #1439
                              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              Ox needs to get in the mire more often. I've been telling him that for years.

                              And speaking of which, any updates, Shaka?
                              he won't be able to get it up after watching the game.
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                              • Green Monstah
                                Royal Rooter
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 13945

                                #1440
                                I see what Surfah is saying, but I don't pin this all on Bronco.

                                Doman has to shoulder some blame, right? Nelson is his guy, he's running the offense; he has responsibility for making sure the offense is prepared to move the ball. For the second straight year, our O looked rattled against our rival.
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