U vs. Y '12

[LA Ute]

Yep, your head is going to explode.

Brother Moliere, I'd be grateful if you would respect my ownership of that metaphor here.

'Preciate ya.

[UtahDan]

Somebody recruit Puget Ute over here. He seems like he'd fit in nicely.

Pretty sure he is, under a different handle.

[DU Ute]

On the contrary, I will bless those who curse me. I will pray that both teams play to the best of their abilities and that no harm or accident befall anyone on either side. Also that all present will be taken home in safety and find all well when they arrive there.

You forgot to pray for the caffinated Coke our cougar brethren consume to nourish and strengthen their bodies.

[LA Ute]

You forgot to pray for the caffeinated Coke our cougar brethren consume to nourish and strengthen their bodies.

I judge them not. I hate the sin but love the sinner. Remember, DU: their souls are precious, and many of them are our brethren.

[All-American]

Pretty sure he is, under a different handle.

Thanks for noticing me.

[smokymountainrain]

That was way too long winded and off the mark. These BYU fans aren't sandbagging because they don't know how good the team is this year. They are sandbagging because they basically view Utah as the better program after a series of losses and a PAC invite.

So, are the ute fans who are sandbagging doing it because they view BYU as the better program after their utes lost 5 conference games last year and appearing early on as though this year's team may actually be worse - as hard to believe as that may be?

[TripletDaddy]

So, are the ute fans who are sandbagging doing it because they view BYU as the better program after their utes lost 5 conference games last year and appearing early on as though this year's team may actually be worse - as hard to believe as that may be?

Of course. Why do you think it has to be mutually exclusive? Again, the majority of ute fans here grew up expecting utah to be BYUs b...... er...... subservient to BYU. It is the same psychosis. While Utah has enjoyed great success as of late, you don't easily shake the trauma of your youth.

Where is SeattleUte this week? He knows what coming. So he copes in a familiar way: resignation.

[LA Ute]

So, are the ute fans who are sandbagging doing it because they view BYU as the better program after their utes lost 5 conference games last year and appearing early on as though this year's team may actually be worse - as hard to believe as that may be?

We take our cue from the sons of Helaman. Like them, we would not fight our Cougar brethren if they would let us alone; therefore, we say, let us go, lest they should overpower the army of Kyle.

[Top Ute]

BYU fans are sandbagging because they know that they really don't know much about how good their team really is. The game against Weber St. didn't teach them anything. The win against Washington St. looks ok on the surface, until you recognize how poor of a team WSU is. WSU barely held on to a win over Eastern Washington at home. They were outgained by over 100 yards by an FCS team. In fact, EWU put up more yards against Wazzu than BYU did.

For all of the talk about how bad Utah's OLine play has been(and it has been bad), how good can Cougar fans feel about their OLine. An OLine that could only average 3.0 yards a carry against the worst front 7 in the PAC-12. How many rushing yards do you think they will get against Utah's front 4?

How do you think that BYU's offense compares to Utah State's? Riley Nelson is at best a B grade replacement for Chuckie. He isn't anywhere near as shifty and fast, and he isn't as accurate of a passer. Arm strength is probably a push. Williams is a much better back than anyone in BYU's backfield. No one that Utah will face Saturday will have the speed and ability of the Aggies backfield, and Riley while having 2 better targets, is not as good a passer as Keeton. Despite these weapons, USU's offense was only able to get 13 points during regulation against the Utes. Do BYU fans think they will do any better.

On the other side, Utah's line was a hot mess in the first half. Utah made some drastic alterations in the lineup for the second half, and despite not having any practice time with that lineup, they didn't give up any sacks and there was much less pressure. Moving Brenner to LT is a key move. He is hands down the best lineman on the team. I don't know why Whitt insisted in keeping him at RG. He filled in for Beadles at LT as a Freshman, and started for Cullen as a Soph. He is 6'4" which is a little short, but his presence there is going to stabilize the entire line. Jones will get the start at RG. Bot(#79) was abused by USU, but people forget that he replaced Bergstrom last year against BYU and held his own. The line is still a worry, but it will be much better this week.

BYU is stout against the run, but they are going to have to commit their linebackers to run support much more than they did against Wazzu. No luxury of playing a 2-4-5 this week. The Cougar secondary better be ready to be tested much more in their base alignment this week. Scott will be a matchup problem for your secondary as will Anderson. DVC is inconsistent, but will have to be accounted for as will Rolf and Murphy.

Ultimately, the game is going to be a defensive struggle that will be decided by QB play. Losing Wynn was addition by subtraction. Riley is more accurate than Hayes, but Hayes has a stronger arm and is more likely to beat you with a big play than Nelson. The advantage that Utah has is that they will not have to commit as many resources to stop the run as BYU. Leaving more players for coverage and containment of any scrambling that Nelson may try. Utah will also cover better than anyone that BYU will see on their schedule. Losing Rowe hurts, no doubt. But Blechen didn't play SS against BYU last year(he was at LB) and Chappius had his best game of the season. BYU is going to have to commit more of their front 7 to stop White, even with Utah's line trouble. This is going to lead to a soft spot behind Ogletree and Kaveinga. The safeties are not going to be able to fill that void because they will have to respect the speed on the outside, and Hayes ability to get the ball down the field.

Fans tend to get wrapped into what happened last week and not look at the whole picture. Based on the play last week, most fans should view BYU as a prohibitive favorite, but the smart fans are sandbagging, because they know that their offense can be yield quite inept this weekend, and they know that Utah has the weapons on offense that can beat them down the field.

You've appropriately soothed my tortured and chaffed psyche. From the bottom of my heart, this Ute fan thanks you.

[Jarid in Cedar]

You've appropriately soothed my tortured and chaffed psyche. From the bottom of my heart, this Ute fan thanks you.

[ERCougar]

Maybe my memory is off, but outside of last year, with our complete headcase of a QB, it seems like we've had decent success moving the ball against Utah with the short passing game. Their defense scares me not for its stopping ability as much as its turnover potential, and that's where Riley could kill us. But no one can accuse him of lacking confidence, which I think is a major reason things got so out of hand last year. And I think his short term accuracy is much better this year. We'll score 20+.

The only thing last week demonstrated is just how serious Utah's offensive problem COULD be (I'm still not convinced that Kyle/Brian didn't dedicate some of last week to BYU and took USU a little lightly). I have no idea what to expect from Utah's offense. Their WRs still scare the crap out of me. And Utah will score some points off turnovers.

24-14.

[Cougarmandias]

I'm confident in BYU's chances this weekend. I think Riley has a great game and he even completes a couple 30+ yard bombs. I also think our D will make Hays and Wilson crap their pants to the point of 3 INTs. Even with all of this, the game will still be a bit close, but only because BYU tends to give up points in the 4th quarter when they are up.

I also predict that LA Ute gets hemorrhoids from holding in his anger all week only to watch his Utes get their butts hand to them on Saturday.

I'm pretty sure its Hoffman will be completing the 30+ yard bombs, in every sense.

[Cougarmandias]

We take our cue from the sons of Helaman. .

May I suggest y'all take your cues from their parents? Lie down and be slaughtered Saturday. That will surely soften our stony hearts.

[ERCougar]

How do you think that BYU's offense compares to Utah State's? Riley Nelson is at best a B grade replacement for Chuckie. He isn't anywhere near as shifty and fast, and he isn't as accurate of a passer. Arm strength is probably a push. Williams is a much better back than anyone in BYU's backfield. No one that Utah will face Saturday will have the speed and ability of the Aggies backfield, and Riley while having 2 better targets, is not as good a passer as Keeton. Despite these weapons, USU's offense was only able to get 13 points during regulation against the Utes. Do BYU fans think they will do any better.

I said at the beginning of the year that Chuckie is the best QB in the state. But that's more by virtue of the other ones sucking (sorry--I've never been sold on Wynn, even freshman year version). I agree that he's shiftier and a better runner, but I don't agree on the passing ability. I haven't seen a lot of Aggie games, but I've never been impressed with his accuracy.

[splitbamboo]

If Portland Ute calls us BYU-Provo, he's just trying to get under our skin. Just keep your cool and don't fall for his mind tricks.

Do they always use "shiz" on that site or have they installed some kind of auto word replacement technology to keep it clean?

By the way -- Go BYU-Provo! Beat Utah!