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  • #16
    I'm not worried about the Tulsa prep I'm worried about the extra practices that could be dedicated to player development. Lark can use all the first team reps he can get and I'm sure plenty of other players can too. This isn't new of course Bronco has left practices on the table for a while.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      We're talking Tulsa here. How long do you really need to prepare for Tulsa? I mean, this is Tulsa we're talking about here.

      Even starting on the 19th, it's still 1.5 weeks of prep for Tulsa.

      Rest, heal up, get school out of your heads and still have ample practice time. What's the problem here?
      the problem is that he is wasting an opportunity.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
        I'm not worried about the Tulsa prep I'm worried about the extra practices that could be dedicated to player development. Lark can use all the first team reps he can get and I'm sure plenty of other players can too. This isn't new of course Bronco has left practices on the table for a while.
        Exactly, what if Riley busts his ribs or gets concussed in this game? Then I bet the coaches will wish they had some extra practices with Lark.
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        • #19
          This isn't nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

          The team has mandatory workouts for most of these days. Letting the players concentrate on finals makes a lot of sense when you consider the difficulty of keeping some of them academically eligible. Also this gives time to get as healthy as possible. The team will get more prep than they usually get prior to a game.

          While I can't point to examples other than Tulsa this year I've always understood that it is fairly common not to use all the alloted practices when prepping for bowls.

          Personally I'd probably mix in a couple more practices than Bronco. With that said Bronco has a pretty good bowl record so I'll defer to his judgement.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
            Signed,

            Tulsa game 2007
            1. There was no game film on Malzahn's offense before that game. The team Tulsa played before the BYU game was so bad Tulsa beat them with a vanilla attack.

            2. That offense was much, much better than this one.

            3. BYU had significantly less than 11 days to prep for the game.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
              Exactly, what if Riley busts his ribs or gets concussed in this game? Then I bet the coaches will wish they had some extra practices with Lark.
              Good point. Maybe Doman can patch things up with Heaps (and family) over the weekend rather than letting that time go to waste. Of course, this might require actually getting Heaps to understand the offense.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                This isn't nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

                The team has mandatory workouts for most of these days. Letting the players concentrate on finals makes a lot of sense when you consider the difficulty of keeping some of them academically eligible. Also this gives time to get as healthy as possible. The team will get more prep than they usually get prior to a game.

                While I can't point to examples other than Tulsa this year I've always understood that it is fairly common not to use all the alloted practices when prepping for bowls.

                Personally I'd probably mix in a couple more practices than Bronco. With that said Bronco has a pretty good bowl record so I'll defer to his judgement.
                I don't think it's fairly common at all. Most coaches use the practices to evaluate freshmen and redshirt players for the spring. Lots of coaches think the biggest advantage of going to a bowl game is the practices and not the game. Teams that don't make a bowl can't practice until the spring. That's a big deal.
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                • #23
                  BTW, bowl practices aren't limited to 15 practices. The teams are still subject to the 4 hrs a day, 20 hrs a week regular season limits.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                    BTW, bowl practices aren't limited to 15 practices. The teams are still subject to the 4 hrs a day, 20 hrs a week regular season limits.
                    They are limited to 15 practices. Sure the season limit stuff is applicable but as far as team practices they only get 15.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                      1. There was no game film on Malzahn's offense before that game. The team Tulsa played before the BYU game was so bad Tulsa beat them with a vanilla attack.

                      2. That offense was much, much better than this one.

                      3. BYU had significantly less than 11 days to prep for the game.
                      All of the above may be true, but none of it convinces me that BYU should do anything other than prepare for Tulsa as if they were LSU.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        I don't think it's fairly common at all. Most coaches use the practices to evaluate freshmen and redshirt players for the spring. Lots of coaches think the biggest advantage of going to a bowl game is the practices and not the game. Teams that don't make a bowl can't practice until the spring. That's a big deal.
                        BYU's evaluation of freshmen goes thusly:

                        Coach: "Are you going on a mission?"

                        Player: "Yeah"

                        Coach: "OK, good luck!"
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                        • #27
                          http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls1...ark&id=5921827
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            They are limited to 15 practices. Sure the season limit stuff is applicable but as far as team practices they only get 15.
                            Google "NCAA football bowl practices rules". "Although there is no specific limit on the number of practices...."
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                            • #29
                              Most coaches don't use all their allotted practice time before a bowl game. I don't know where that idea comes from, but it is not true.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                                Google "NCAA football bowl practices rules". "Although there is no specific limit on the number of practices...."
                                I stand corrected then. I don't know where the 15 practices comes from then because that is printed everywhere.
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