2012 BYU Football Season

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  • Indy Coug
    Heartless Bastard
    • Dec 2008
    • 18747

    #2026
    Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    Kind of BS to blame the player. Nice accountability there.
    Don't bother reading what was actually said where Bronco said he took the blame for the miscommunication.

    Mendenhall says he and the coaches bear responsibility for the call and the inability to transfer the "victory formation" message in time.
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    • San Juan Sun
      Kicked to the curb
      • Dec 2009
      • 9214

      #2027
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      Don't bother reading what was actually said where Bronco said he took the blame for the miscommunication.

      https://twitter.com/gregwrubell/stat...63275255435264
      I'm reading this on my phone at my daughters soccer practice. Can't exactly surf the web looking for Broncos comments. No matter what the context was, if Kinahans tweet is accurate, it's a pretty dumb thing to say. Did they or did they not ever call that QB draw?
      "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

      - Ty Cobb

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      • ERCougar
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 10978

        #2028
        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
        Don't bother reading what was actually said where Bronco said he took the blame for the miscommunication.

        https://twitter.com/gregwrubell/stat...63275255435264
        So why say anything about Hill not seeing the signal? Who sent in the play in the first place?
        At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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        • USUC
          Chronic Poseur
          • Apr 2010
          • 8812

          #2029
          Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
          So why say anything about Hill not seeing the signal? Who sent in the play in the first place?
          Per Greg Wrubell

          "Mendenhall says the rolling hand signal from coaches on the sideline for "clock is rolling" was interpreted by Hill as "run the play."

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          • MarkGrace
            Grooveshark dick tease
            • Dec 2008
            • 31546

            #2030
            1. Didn't have a team prepared for the noise of RES.
            2. Don't know how to communicate signals from the bench.

            This seems like rookie shit.
            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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            • USUC
              Chronic Poseur
              • Apr 2010
              • 8812

              #2031
              The fact that the 3rd to last play of the game results in an injury is definitely unlucky. The fact that a young QB misinterpreted a call isn't that surprising. Its all really shitty for sure. But the larger problem is the fact that there was 19 such plays called to begin with. I hope these tweets from Wrubell indicate that Bronco has already had a come to Jesus talk with Doman about it.:

              "Mendenhall said BYU's current high-carry model for QBs is "not sustainable"; says again that 19 carries (Hill's rushes v. USU) is too many."

              "Mendenhall says QB carry numbers need to come down, and/or QBs need to be more committed to "risk-aversion" techniques (sliding, etc.)."

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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #2032
                Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
                Per Greg Wrubell

                "Mendenhall says the rolling hand signal from coaches on the sideline for "clock is rolling" was interpreted by Hill as "run the play."
                What does this even mean? So Bronco is giving Taysom a hand signal from the sidelines to tell him that the clock is rolling?
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                • USUC
                  Chronic Poseur
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 8812

                  #2033
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  What does this even mean? So Bronco is giving Taysom a hand signal from the sidelines to tell him that the clock is rolling?
                  Doman, not Bronco. But yeah it appears that way. Is this something that coaches signal to players? Seems like a no brainer.

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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #2034
                    Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
                    Doman, not Bronco. But yeah it appears that way. Is this something that coaches signal to players? Seems like a no brainer.
                    Sorry, doman.

                    so given the context of the situation, why would doman be signaling to Hill the clock was rolling? They wanted to run down the clock, USU only had one timeout remaining. Was doman freaked out that they were going to eat clock and get a delay of game penalty?

                    If I am understanding bronco correctly, doman was honestly signaling to Hill to say, "the clock that we want to run down is running! Hurry up and get in victory formation" and Hill misinterpreted that to mean, "run the play."

                    Someone help me out here.
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                    • Coach McGuirk
                      1
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12109

                      #2035
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      Sorry, doman.

                      so given the context of the situation, why would doman be signaling to Hill the clock was rolling? They wanted to run down the clock, USU only had one timeout remaining. Was doman freaked out that they were going to eat clock and get a delay of game penalty?

                      If I am understanding bronco correctly, doman was honestly signaling to Hill to say, "the clock that we want to run down is running! Hurry up and get in victory formation" and Hill misinterpreted that to mean, "run the play."

                      Someone help me out here.
                      I don't get it either. Who called the play, and why did it need to change and who cares if the clock is running or not at that point?

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                      • Indy Coug
                        Heartless Bastard
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 18747

                        #2036
                        Maybe the signal was to "run clock", meaning don't snap the ball until the play clock is used up.
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                        • Coach McGuirk
                          1
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12109

                          #2037
                          Doman audio,

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                          • USUC
                            Chronic Poseur
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 8812

                            #2038
                            Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                            I don't get it either. Who called the play, and why did it need to change and who cares if the clock is running or not at that point?
                            So the signal for "clock is running" looks a lot like "QB draw?" Stupid if that's the case. Also, if he interpreted the "clock is running" signal as "run the next play", then the next play called was the QB draw.

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #2039
                              Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
                              Also, if he interpreted the "clock is running" signal as "run the next play", then the next play called was the QB draw.
                              Correct. That is why it makes little or no sense as explained.

                              I guess it is possible that Taysom legitimately misunderstood the hand signal and thought he was to run the next play, the next play called by doman was to take a knee in victory formation, but Taysom didn't like what he saw at the line and audibled into a QB draw instead.
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                              • USUC
                                Chronic Poseur
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 8812

                                #2040
                                Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                                Here Doman explains that the signal was to let the clock wind down. He misinterpreted it and he called a play and went running to the line of scrimmage. Doman tried to get Bronco to call a timeout but he didn't make it to the ref in time.

                                So Hill called the play?

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