Penn State pedophilia

[lambdacoug]

Do people grasp how offensive and insensitive those smiley graphics are?

Have you no sense of humor?

[smokymountainrain]

Do people grasp how offensive and insensitive those smiley graphics are?

For the record, I have never used the smiley graphic in question.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Do people grasp how offensive and insensitive those smiley graphics are?

They have never bothered me, but if some of you find them offensive I would be happy to delete them.

[Jeff Lebowski]

They have never bothered me, but if some of you find them offensive I would be happy to delete them.

Gone.

[DU Ute]

Gone.

I think that's a good call. They don't bother me too much, but anyone who's lost a loved one to a self-inflicted gunshot would probably feel differently.

[Coach McGuirk]

I think that's a good call. They don't bother me too much, but anyone who's lost a loved one to a self-inflicted gunshot would probably feel differently.

Your avatar bothers me.

[DU Ute]

Your avatar bothers me.

Gone

[Coach McGuirk]

Gone

Better.

[TripletDaddy]

A bunch of nobodies Former PSU players banding together to appeal NCAA sanctions.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...scandal-080712

"By these unsupported findings, the Appellants have been forever branded as somehow contributing to a `culture' on campus that enabled these unlawful acts against children to continue. Meaning no disrespect to the victims of abuse, these findings are unfair and they are wrong."

[calicoug]

Strategy? The guy's trying to bring a due process and 8th amendment suit against a sports club.

Maybe I am the only one, but the legal arguments actually don't seem too bad to me here. It's all the other arguments (moral, political, etc.) where they fail completely.

[Donuthole]

Maybe I am the only one, but the legal arguments actually don't seem too bad to me here. It's all the other arguments (moral, political, etc.) where they fail completely.

Sounds to me like an argument from a group of plaintiffs who lack any standing whatsoever.

[Babs]

Sounds to me like an argument from a group of plaintiffs who lack any standing whatsoever.

I don't know. Maybe we could ask wuap.

[creekster]

I don't know. Maybe we could ask wuap.

I can hardly wait for AA's punchline here.

[calicoug]

Sounds to me like an argument from a group of plaintiffs who lack any standing whatsoever.

Members of the board are threatening the suit. I'm guessing they would have standing. If it gets to that point, their argument will be that first, the board (of which they are a part) didn't approve the consent decree and therefore the consent decree is invalid (the president was without power to sign), second, because it was invalid, the basis of the NCAA punishment was without merit, and third, the NCAA couldn't deprive PSU of a property interest without due process (all of which it skipped because it relied on the consent decree).

It certainly passes the laugh test from a legal standpoint, I think. Doesn't pass the "shockingly awful" test from other standpoints.

[TripletDaddy]

Maybe I am the only one, but the legal arguments actually don't seem too bad to me here. It's all the other arguments (moral, political, etc.) where they fail completely.

Im not so sure. When SC was going through the appeals process, all of these issues were being vetted....can th NCAA do this? Why are they punishing the football team for Reggies parents when the NCAA never accused Reggie or the football program of wrongdoing? Why so many scholarship reductions. Ultimately, the appeal was fruitless except that the NCAA made clear a few critical points. Among them, that Jerry Tarkanian already tried a due process argument. SCOTUS sided with the NCAA, giving it basically carte blanche to discipline its members. Also, The NCAA also is not bound by precedent. It has said so repeatedly.

Ultimately, the only argument that might have legs is that the President didn't have the authority to sign the deal, but that brings me back to my original post. If the deal is retracted, the school gets the Death Penalty. And the NCAA clearly has the authority to dole out the Death Penalty. What's the point?

Sometimes the best counsel is letting your client know when to accept the deal. This is clearly one of those instances, at least in my mind. I'm not surprised some firms want to take this case....it has the potential for thousands of billable hours with a deep pocketed client.