Was that a worst case scenario for our QB situation?

[Surfah]

This thing is all in his head. I don't doubt his ability to make throws at all, which is why I'm not buying the get better in practice or redshirt stuff. Those aren't going to fix what ails him. I'm not sure what is going to, but that he has the tools to be doing all this stuff on the field as has already been evidenced in practice.

I'm wondering how much the end of the Utah game has messed with him. I'm still of the opinion that his play was fine through Ole Miss, Texas, and Utah. Was it great? No. But he was good enough in at least half of those games and showed enough flashes to believe something good was coming. You look at those games (on the road in the SEC, on the road in the B12, rivalry game), and they are situations where our quarterbacks/offenses have universally not performed well over the last few years. With that as a benchmark, I think Jake showed well enough to believe that he was start to put it together when the competition leveled off.

Then we hit the Utah game and get our asses kicked, and like it or not, people are going to take that out on the quarterback. So we hear the boo birds at the end and noticeable excitement when Riley comes in. In the very next game is when we start to see the deer-in-the-headlights Jake that looks utterly confused and has a constant wtf look on his face, which continues through Utah St. A handful of months ago fans we're lining up blocks deep to get his autograph at fan events and didn't even know the other guy was alive, now they're booing you and cheering for the other guy. Can't be easy to process for a 20 year old kid.

Not just boo birds but stupid fans chanting Riley in the stadium.

[MarkGrace]

I don't remember anything from that game except for the score and how shitty I felt afterwards.

That's fair.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Hays didn't look like a complete fool throwing the ball straight up in the middle of the of the field not knowing who was around. Both Hays and Riley threw the same amount of picks on Saturday didn't they? I would say ASU is a little bit better competition that SJSU.

I wouldn't trade Hays for Riley Nelson.

[Surfah]

I wouldn't trade Hays for Riley Nelson.

I would!

[MartyFunkhouser]

I would!

Hooray, we agree. The Utes have the better of the 2 shitty QBs.

[Blueintheface]

Hooray, we agree. The Utes have the better of the 2 shitty QBs.

And meanwhile Utah St has a freshman whom we'd both rather have. How did it come to this?

[Hot Lunch]

And meanwhile Utah St has a freshman whom we'd both rather have. How did it come to this?

and 2 running backs.................

[MartyFunkhouser]

and 2 running backs.................

I'm not sure that isn't 3 or more running backs.

[cougjunkie]

and a loss to BYU!!!!!!!!!!

[MarkGrace]

and 2 running backs.................

I'd much rather have their RB's than QB.

[Surfah]

I'd much rather have their RB's than QB.

Agreed. Turbin is a bad man. But I'd take any or all of them.

[Blueintheface]

and 2 running backs.................

I'd take a Utah-type shellacking once again just to have Turbin on my roster for a year. A great RB can cover up so many deficiencies in the passing game, OL, coach's annoying habits, etc.

[Pelado]

Did Jake get to sit a year watching a Davey O'Brien winner in an established offense? Your point here is meaningless.

Did Bosco get game reps to prepare him for a year "which could be very big?"

The coaches have done a disservice to Heaps by inflating the hype. They should not have fawned over him to the press, leading us to believe that he'd perform like one of the top quarterbacks in the nation.

I'm not going out on a limb saying that Jake has not been good this year. He has faced decent defenses, but he's repeatedly thrown the ball to the wrong receiver, thrown the ball too early, or thrown the ball poorly.

These miscues were not limited to the UCF and USU games. We saw it against Ole Miss, Texas, and some against Utah (where I thought he actually played pretty well aside from the fumbles).

I suspect that Jake will get another chance at some point this season, either because of injury to or sucky play by Riley. Whenever that happens, I hope Jake is mentally and physically prepared to be the quarterback he was billed as - making appropriate pre-snap reads, going through progressions (not just chucking it to Apo), and delivering the ball accurately.

[byu71]

How many starts did Bosco have before the national championship season?

Who was the head coach, who was the OC, who was the QB coach? Bosco may have had an advantage.

[smokymountainrain]

Who was the head coach, who was the OC, who was the QB coach? Bosco may have had an advantage.

Not to mention, Bosco wasn't afraid to get hit. That's a huge advantage right there. Definitely not a fair comparison.