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  • #61
    I'm embarrassed to ever have supported Doman. He's terrible. What is this Skyline High School offense bullshit? This is BYU.

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    • #62
      This thread reminds me that I miss Blue Hair

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      • #63
        I was getting so frustrated with Riley running the bootleg or scrambling on every damn passing play. I don't know if they were designed that way or if it was Riley running scared. But I noticed during the scoring drive, Hill stayed in the pocket for each completion he made. The first 3 attempts (two of them big completions) and the pass converting the 4th down, all in the pocket. The only pass he wasn't in the pocket almost got picked off.

        I don't know what this means as far as play calling. Someone with a grasp on Xs and Os interpret please.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
          I was getting so frustrated with Riley running the bootleg or scrambling on every damn passing play. I don't know if they were designed that way or if it was Riley running scared. But I noticed during the scoring drive, Hill stayed in the pocket for each completion he made. The first 3 attempts (two of them big completions) and the pass converting the 4th down, all in the pocket. The only pass he wasn't in the pocket almost got picked off.

          I don't know what this means as far as play calling. Someone with a grasp on Xs and Os interpret please.
          I think it might mean it's easier to throw a football accurately from a still position than from a sprint. It also might mean that passing from the pocket allows you to see receivers from the entire field not just 1/3 of it. But that's not how they do it at Skyline high school so I could be wrong.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            I think it might mean it's easier to throw a football accurately from a still position than from a sprint. It also might mean that passing from the pocket allows you to see receivers from the entire field not just 1/3 of it. But that's not how they do it at Skyline high school so I could be wrong.
            Ha ha. You are right. I guess I should have said what does this mean as far as Doman's play calling?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
              I was getting so frustrated with Riley running the bootleg or scrambling on every damn passing play. I don't know if they were designed that way or if it was Riley running scared. But I noticed during the scoring drive, Hill stayed in the pocket for each completion he made. The first 3 attempts (two of them big completions) and the pass converting the 4th down, all in the pocket. The only pass he wasn't in the pocket almost got picked off.

              I don't know what this means as far as play calling. Someone with a grasp on Xs and Os interpret please.
              It's really quite simple: you have an OL that can't protect and two QBs that aren't physically and/or mentally able to throw the ball but have some varying degree of ability to run the ball, so you move them out of the pocket. We don't have an RB that can create on their own and an OL that can't open a hole.

              Doman is trying to get blood from a turnip right now with this offense. When Nelson is healthy, he's good enough to get some production. When he's hurt, his limitations are even more pronounced.

              The seeds for the situation we find BYU in have been sown over a long period of time and are finally coming to fruition -- and really shouldn't surprise anyone.
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              • #67
                The Doman Offense

                It has the ring of a movie title.
                Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                - Howard Aiken

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                • #68
                  Indy is right. I'm not ready to throw things on Doman until we get the OL issues resolved. It's been too many years in a row where this has been an issue. We have the stock to have one of the best OLs in the country every year--big Scandinavian farmers from Idaho.
                  At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                  -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                  • #69
                    Doman's offense is an embarrassing joke. This team is a new OC (or old OC you hear me Robert Anae?) away from any degree of meaningful success.
                    Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                      Doman's offense is an embarrassing joke. This team is a new OC (or old OC you hear me Robert Anae?) away from any degree of meaningful success.
                      I guess you could say Doman's offense is offensive.
                      I'm like LeBron James.
                      -mpfunk

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                        Indy is right. I'm not ready to throw things on Doman until we get the OL issues resolved. It's been too many years in a row where this has been an issue. We have the stock to have one of the best OLs in the country every year--big Scandinavian farmers from Idaho.
                        This. Peyton Manning would play like shit with this OL.
                        "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                          This. Peyton Manning would play like shit with this OL.
                          PM had some awful awful OLs his last years in Indy, he just got rid of the ball ridiculously fast. Our OL is not very good, but these statements are just stupid. John Beck and Max Hall would make our OL look solid and our O would be fine (well if it was Anae's O and not the Doman mix of 6 offenses).

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                            This. Peyton Manning would play like shit with this OL.
                            He is currently playing that way regardless!
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
                              PM had some awful awful OLs his last years in Indy, he just got rid of the ball ridiculously fast. Our OL is not very good, but these statements are just stupid. John Beck and Max Hall would make our OL look solid and our O would be fine (well if it was Anae's O and not the Doman mix of 6 offenses).
                              They had far better offensive lines. Also how does Max's performance against the Utes in 2008 job against your statement?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                                They had far better offensive lines. Also how does Max's performance against the Utes in 2008 job against your statement?
                                Max played like garbage in 2008. But our defense that year is not remotely comparable to this year. Max would have easily won this game against Utah this year against Utah's backup safeties and a converted WR at corner. Especially when he had such a nasty D to fall back on.

                                And Max proved himself in many big games throughout his career. Riley has done nothing of the sort. Using that Utah 2008 game to try and justify any poor QB play is pathetic. Just as pathetic as comparing TCU 2011 defense to 2008-2010.

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