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  • Surfah
    Where's Wallace?
    • Nov 2008
    • 33726

    #376
    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
    Just saw this on the Ute board:



    Horrible news. Prayers for the Tongaonavai family are in order.
    That's terrible news.
    "Nobody listens to Turtle."
    -Turtle
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    • NorthwestUteFan
      אלוף
      • Oct 2010
      • 3384

      #377
      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      Sorry I only get off on Cougars.
      or what cougars may possibly do to upcoming opponents.

      Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
      Hey, isn't NWUF's mom a Cougar?

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      • New Mexican Disaster
        Suomalainen
        • Nov 2008
        • 4549

        #378
        Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
        Just saw this on the Ute board:



        Horrible news. Prayers for the Tongaonavai family are in order.
        Oh man. That sucks. Effing drunk drivers.

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        • BemidjiCoug
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 466

          #379
          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          I noticed that in the first half Wynn seemed to watch only one receiver on passing plays - in fact he seemed to keep his eyes locked on his primary the whole play. In the second half he seemed to actually make some reads. Maybe he was told to do that at halftime, maybe he just got more confident. On most of his short passes it seemed that he was pretty much bent on making that play - and he did complete almost all of them. It's hard to know if focusing on the short pass was his decision or Chow's. I tend to think it was Chow's.
          I think Chow would just like him to make the correct read, whether it is short or long it doesn't really matter just as long it is the right read. I wouldn't worry about it to much Ty Detmer would have had the same type of game against a powerhouse like Montana State.

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          • Blueintheface
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 15382

            #380
            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
            Just saw this on the Ute board:



            Horrible news. Prayers for the Tongaonavai family are in order.
            Oh man that sucks.
            "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

            "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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            • Portland Ute
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 5647

              #381
              Originally posted by kccougar View Post
              Whittingham said as much in his post-game comments. Wynn's issues last night were not a result of injury.

              Actually, I was a little surprised by Whittingham's comments. Listening to Kyle Gunther's post-game analysis, he had convinced me that the short passes were part of the game plan. But Whittingham went right after Chow after the game, saying they needed to throw down field more. So that wasn't part of the game plan? Not sure if the coaches are on the same page.
              Eh, I head Whit's post game and I did not get the sense that he was going after Chow. I got the sense that he felt they would do some things differently going forward. "Going after" seems to mean he was upset with Chow. Neither his voice nor his comments seemed to indicate that.

              What I did hear, however, were a couple of questions regarding Wynn's play and KW got pretty agitated with the interviewer/reporter. He said it was the caoches' responsibility to scheme for the opponent and prepare the players and he even went so far as to say, "That is on me." Seemed like he went out of his way to protect his player from criticism.

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              • Portland Ute
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 5647

                #382
                Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                That is not how I saw it. I think he was barking at Wynn just as much. There were guys open on deeper routes, they just weren't as wide open as the short pass. Wynn didn't look like he had the confidence to throw into tight coverage. He chose the obviously open receiver instead of the open receiver that would have gained 10 more yards on the play. I think Whitt was saying that Wynn needed to take some shots into the intermediate range more than we did(which was just about never).
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                That is interesting that Utah was unable to get open down the field against
                1-AA corners. That does not bode well for the remainder of the season.
                Read it again, cj. JiC didn't say they weren't getting open. Which is accurate. They weren't having trouble getting open.

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                • Blueintheface
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 15382

                  #383
                  Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                  Eh, I head Whit's post game and I did not get the sense that he was going after Chow. I got the sense that he felt they would do some things differently going forward. "Going after" seems to mean he was upset with Chow. Neither his voice nor his comments seemed to indicate that.

                  What I did hear, however, were a couple of questions regarding Wynn's play and KW got pretty agitated with the interviewer/reporter. He said it was the caoches' responsibility to scheme for the opponent and prepare the players and he even went so far as to say, "That is on me." Seemed like he went out of his way to protect his player from criticism.
                  I agree with that but if it was directed at Chow even just a little bit it wouldn't be the first time that a head coach has taken exception with Chow flipping the script. Again, not saying Chow dumbed it down too much or that it wasn't entirely on Wynn but it's hard to believe that with all the play action that was run that Wynn wouldn't have gone down field more.
                  "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                  "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                  • Portland Ute
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5647

                    #384
                    Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                    I agree with that but if it was directed at Chow even just a little bit it wouldn't be the first time that a head coach has taken exception with Chow flipping the script. Again, not saying Chow dumbed it down too much or that it wasn't entirely on Wynn but it's hard to believe that with all the play action that was run that Wynn wouldn't have gone down field more.
                    It sure seems like BYU fans are itching to see a controversy erupt between KW and Chow.

                    That may happen. But last night was anything but that.

                    Like I said, KW said, "That's on me." He pointed the finger at the entire staff to deflect criticism from Wynn. He seemed to the point of being a bit over-protective of Wynn. Whit pointed to himself as having some blame.

                    Much ado about nothing right now.

                    It's a few people trying to stir up the appearance of a "brewing" personality conflict.

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                    • LiveCoug
                      LA Ute loves me
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 18485

                      #385
                      This is awful



                      Thoughts and prayers for Ron.

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                      • Blueintheface
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 15382

                        #386
                        Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                        It sure seems like BYU fans are itching to see a controversy erupt between KW and Chow.
                        That may happen. But last night was anything but that.

                        Like I said, KW said, "That's on me." He pointed the finger at the entire staff to deflect criticism from Wynn. He seemed to the point of being a bit over-protective of Wynn. Whit pointed to himself as having some blame.

                        Much ado about nothing right now.

                        It's a few people trying to stir up the appearance of a "brewing" personality conflict.
                        Because of what I said? Whoa, I like Chow, he's a part of my team's legacy. Don't misunderstand my commenting on Chow's past dust-ups with some desire to see him fail. He's probably one of the best, if not THE best OCs in the country I was just making an observation as to his history.

                        FWIW, Kyle said the exact right thing and took responsibility for it as a coaching staff. What I was trying to convey (poorly I know) was my belief that Wynn is not right and perhaps Chow went more vanilla based on what he knew and saw early on from Wynn.
                        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                        • cougjunkie
                          *Banned*
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 23223

                          #387
                          Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                          Read it again, cj. JiC didn't say they weren't getting open. Which is accurate. They weren't having trouble getting open.
                          He actually said they were not as open as the shorter stuff and Wynn may have been scared to throw in to tight coverage. Tight coverage to me means they were not open.
                          *Banned*

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                          • Sizzle
                            #ThisIsY
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 9004

                            #388
                            Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                            Seemed like he went out of his way to protect his player from criticism.
                            It's what you have to do as a coach when your QB has an ego that is as frail as his body.

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                            • kccougar
                              9262
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7020

                              #389
                              Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                              Eh, I head Whit's post game and I did not get the sense that he was going after Chow. I got the sense that he felt they would do some things differently going forward. "Going after" seems to mean he was upset with Chow. Neither his voice nor his comments seemed to indicate that.

                              What I did hear, however, were a couple of questions regarding Wynn's play and KW got pretty agitated with the interviewer/reporter. He said it was the caoches' responsibility to scheme for the opponent and prepare the players and he even went so far as to say, "That is on me." Seemed like he went out of his way to protect his player from criticism.
                              I posted this elsewhere, but I agree with putting it on the coaches, regardless of whether it was Chow's game plan or Wynn's decisions. That's what good coaches do.
                              "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                              • Portland Ute
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 5647

                                #390
                                [QUOTE=Blueintheface;649063]Because of what I said? Whoa, I like Chow, he's a part of my team's legacy. [QUOTE]

                                No, not just because of what you said. There are a handful of BYU posters that have tried to assert that there is trouble brewing between KW and Chow.

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