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  • Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
    This. We never use the middle of the field. Every throw is outside the numbers.
    Mike Leach was productive with every QB at Texas Tech and it wasn't because he was dicking around with play action every other play when you refuse to throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field. When every pass is to the running back or TE in the flat, then the defense will put everyone on the line of scrimmage and its next to impossible to get any kind of running game. The defense knows that with eight guys in the box, they can adequately cover both your running and passing game.

    That's why Leach and Anae with BYU would pepper defenses with these high percentage 8-15 yard plays. Seriously, what were BYU's offenses ranked nationally between 06 and 09? Why was this not good enough? Did we think that a moron could achieve those kinds of results?

    The play calling in the second half tonight was atrocious. The play calling in the red zone in the first half wasn't great either. Can we please take the fade out of the playbook. I know that most teams use the play, but is there a lower percentage play out there that remains this popular?
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
      Great comments by 'Napper.

      On the bright side JSor was 3 for 3.
      I trust Brandon Doman over time. He is fiercely competitive and smart as hell. He will figure it out and will one day be a very good OC. He is probably better now than many want to give him credit.

      For the record I care less where he puts himself during the game.
      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
      -General George S. Patton

      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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      • Where was kariya today?
        So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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        • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
          Mike Leach was productive with every QB at Texas Tech and it wasn't because he was dicking around with play action every other play when you refuse to throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field. When every pass is to the running back or TE in the flat, then the defense will put everyone on the line of scrimmage and its next to impossible to get any kind of running game. The defense knows that with eight guys in the box, they can adequately cover both your running and passing game.

          That's why Leach and Anae with BYU would pepper defenses with these high percentage 8-15 yard plays. Seriously, what were BYU's offenses ranked nationally between 06 and 09? Why was this not good enough? Did we think that a moron could achieve those kinds of results?

          The play calling in the second half tonight was atrocious. The play calling in the red zone in the first half wasn't great either. Can we please take the fade out of the playbook. I know that most teams use the play, but is there a lower percentage play out there that remains this popular?
          I think Anae was removed more because he was an impediment than because he wasn't good. With that decision to turn things over to the young buck comes growing pains. I am confident that Doman will learn from his experiences. I am not really sure I am convinced they are "mistakes" as much as these things are very tough and he had a bit of a gauntlet with difficult teams out the shoot with a team that is still very young.
          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
          -General George S. Patton

          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
          -DOCTOR Wuap

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          • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
            I think Anae was removed more because he was an impediment than because he wasn't good. With that decision to turn things over to the young buck comes growing pains. I am confident that Doman will learn from his experiences. I am not really sure I am convinced they are "mistakes" as much as these things are very tough and he had a bit of a gauntlet with difficult teams out the shoot with a team that is still very young.
            I agree - from what I understand Anae's departure had little to do with his coordination and a lot to do with personality conflicts. But that's not exactly first hand information.
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            • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
              Let us not become a bunch of stringpullers. BYU is very young. The OC is in his first year. There are going to be issues. Predictable can also often be defined: playing a team with very good players coached by very good coaches.

              I don't think Robert Anae was as bad as he was made out to be. Someday, I think we might figure out that change for the sake of change is not always the answer. I also think Brandon Doman will be fine in time. This team is still one year away, IMO.

              Saying that, it was a winnable game but these things happen!
              Step back cadet, you sound like Crowton with all this young and inexperienced nonsense that you then follow it up with your "change for the sake of change" confuciusism. Doman is in over his head. The time for this team was now, this year.

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              • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                I trust Brandon Doman over time. He is fiercely competitive and smart as hell. He will figure it out and will one day be a very good OC. He is probably better now than many want to give him credit.

                For the record I care less where he puts himself during the game.
                he's got a lot of work to do before he's recognized as a good offensive coordinator.
                Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                God forgives many things for an act of mercy
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                Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

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                • The part I find unfortunate

                  is my faith in Jake Heaps as a capable assessor of an OC's abilities might have been shaken. I really thought the 20 year old kid knew what he was talking about when those not enamored with Anae would use Heaps insight as proof that Anae had become "predictable."

                  I will say that Brandon Doman was pretty PR savy to indicate the wouldn't be "predictable" all pre-season. It had the natives moist in the warmest spot on the human body!

                  Sadly, the only thing that has been predictable is that a sophmore qb and the brand new OC have struggled against good opponents.

                  This club is one year away.
                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                  -DOCTOR Wuap

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                  • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    is my faith in Jake Heaps as a capable assessor of an OC's abilities might have been shaken. I really thought the 20 year old kid knew what he was talking about when those not enamored with Anae would use Heaps insight as proof that Anae had become "predictable."

                    I will say that Brandon Doman was pretty PR savy to indicate the wouldn't be "predictable" all pre-season. It had the natives moist in the warmest spot on the human body!

                    Sadly, the only thing that has been predictable is that a sophmore qb and the brand new OC have struggled against good opponents.

                    This club is one year away.
                    They are further away than one year with Doman learning on the job.

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                    • Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                      Step back cadet, you sound like Crowton with all this young and inexperienced nonsense that you then follow it up with your "change for the sake of change" confuciusism. Doman is in over his head. The time for this team was now, this year.
                      No. At the point that BYU turned the offense over to Brandon Doman it definitely was not the time for this team. There is no way a first time OC with this many young players was going to get through a year unscathed. That is a unreasonable expectation. The explanation of young and innexperienced works for me when BYU is playing teams with more natural ability and showing glimpses of good football. Tonight they competed and left it all on the field, the opponent was just a little bit better. The excuse did not work for me when BYU was routinely losing to teams it was significantly more talented than and showed no fight.

                      Doman is in over his head, but I really believe he will rise up in time. He is a fighter and he is smart. I believe he has the instincts, pedigree and desire to be a good one. However, I have no illusions of grandeur that it is going to happen in his first two games. BYU turned it over to him. Savy college football fans should not torture themselves over the reality of what the situation is. We knew it was coming.
                      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                      -General George S. Patton

                      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                      -DOCTOR Wuap

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                      • Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                        They are further away than one year with Doman learning on the job.
                        Easy there tiger. Doman will get it together. Waaaay too early to write him off.

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                        • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                          No. At the point that BYU turned the offense over to Brandon Doman it definitely was not the time for this team. There is no way a first time OC with this many young players was going to get through a year unscathed. That is a unreasonable expectation. The explanation of young and innexperienced works for me when BYU is playing teams with more natural ability and showing glimpses of good football. Tonight they competed and left it all on the field, the opponent was just a little bit better. The excuse did not work for me when BYU was routinely losing to teams it was significantly more talented than and showed no fight.

                          Doman is in over his head, but I really believe he will rise up in time. He is a fighter and he is smart. I believe he has the instincts, pedigree and desire to be a good one. However, I have no illusions of grandeur that it is going to happen in his first two games. BYU turned it over to him. Savy college football fans should not torture themselves over the reality of what the situation is. We knew it was coming.
                          Everyone knew we would have growing pains and nobody expected an undefeated season. What hurts about this game is that it was very winnable, and mental mistakes and conservative play calling did us in.

                          The defense is playing their asses off and I am excited to see what they do against Wynn next week.
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                          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                            Easy there tiger. Doman will get it together. Waaaay too early to write him off.
                            Yes. Like napper said we're about a year away from being really good. I hope. My faith is a little shaken right now. I think not haveing a Harvey Unga type back is really hurting us as well.
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                            • Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                              They are further away than one year with Doman learning on the job.
                              I think that the collecctive innexperience of the players is magnifying Doman's learning curve. By all means Doman is likely to take time to really perfect the art, but IMO next year the players are more likely to cover it up more.

                              We shall see, but I think BYU played a team that is putting together the pieces to make a NC run in the next couple of years. We are not at that level and likely never will be. I think BYU is putting the pieces together for a good national level run as well, but not at the level Texas will. We are both young, they are just a little better. BYU left it all on the field, I can live with it.
                              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                              -General George S. Patton

                              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                              -DOCTOR Wuap

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                              • Originally posted by venkman View Post
                                Yes. Like napper said we're about a year away from being really good. I hope. My faith is a little shaken right now. I think not haveing a Harvey Unga type back is really hurting us as well.
                                I agree with this. You cannot be an elite team with mid level talent in the backfield. I do think that next year will be a step up in that I think the committee will be collectively more talented, but I still am skeptical there is a star level college runningback on the roster.
                                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                                -General George S. Patton

                                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                                -DOCTOR Wuap

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