Utah president on short list to become next UW president

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  • LA Ute
    Receiver of Memory
    • Nov 2008
    • 19512

    #46
    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    How long do university presidents usually stay? How long was the tenure of the previous president (wasn't his name Menchin or something like that?)?

    Perhaps you might consider Dave Rice to replace Young. Just a thought.
    I think a low-level administrator in Pres. Samuelson's office would be a better fit.

    It seems like Smith and Machen ( the last two presidents) were in office about 5-7 years.
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    • SeattleUte
      Faith crisis consultant
      • Nov 2008
      • 20837

      #47
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Sex scandals have ruined many careers...Gary Hart, Jim Bakker, and to a lesser extent, Richard Gere.
      What does this have to do with whether Huntsman should give money to the university or not?
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • LA Ute
        Receiver of Memory
        • Nov 2008
        • 19512

        #48
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        Was this the guy whose troubles LA Ute labeled a "tragedy" or some similar melodramatic term? Is that what falafel is referencing? I'm having a hard time believing that the President of the U is in trouble because he drinks wine.
        I know you think this is funny but I wish you would stop. This is the second time you have made fun of what I said. When one knows two people who have been married and built a family and life together for 30+ years, and that all blows up, leaving lots of human pain behind, it is normal to feel really awful for those involved and to describe the event as a tragedy, and that's what I did. I think you need to grow up a little bit, at least as far as such things are concerned.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • falafel
          loves to talk on things
          • Mar 2009
          • 37836

          #49
          LA Ute takes off the kid gloves.

          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • TripletDaddy
            sweet triple
            • Nov 2008
            • 58186

            #50
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            What does this have to do with whether Huntsman should give money to the university or not?
            Much like how politicians who are otherwise very capable do not get elected but for the sex scandal, a university president likewise greatly impairs his ability to raise funds (one of his primary responsibilities).
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            • Green Monstah
              Royal Rooter
              • Aug 2010
              • 13885

              #51
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              I don't know if this rumor is true. But it should only cause Huntsman to think twice about making a donation to the university if he's become addled. You act like it's a rational response.
              I also called it a dick move. I think you could understand that Huntsman is in a catch-22 (no matter he what he does, someone may not be happy about it).
              Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #52
                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                I know you think this is funny but I wish you would stop. This is the second time you have made fun of what I said. When one knows two people who have been married and built a family and life together for 30+ years, and that all blows up, leaving lots of human pain behind, it is normal to feel really awful for those involved and to describe the event as a tragedy, and that's what I did. I think you need to grow up a little bit, at least as far as such things are concerned.
                I don't think the situation is funny nor have I ever intimated as much.
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                • SeattleUte
                  Faith crisis consultant
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 20837

                  #53
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  Much like how politicians who are otherwise very capable do not get elected but for the sex scandal, a university president likewise greatly impairs his ability to raise funds (one of his primary responsibilities).
                  I just googled Michael Young sexual affair and there doesn't seem to be any "sex scandal" going on. No laws broken, nothing that grown up people seem to care much about. The only thing that is going on is the kind of sophomoric prurient speculation that seems to be endemic to your adopted socio-culture there in Utah such as leads to massive threads about pornography here. Guess what, the real world isn't interested in Michael Young's personal life, just like it doesn't believe that pornography is going to make the Constitution "hang by a thread". I think you've been spending too much time in utah and it's time for you to return to LA.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • SeattleUte
                    Faith crisis consultant
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 20837

                    #54
                    Originally posted by RedSox View Post
                    I also called it a dick move. I think you could understand that Huntsman is in a catch-22 (no matter he what he does, someone may not be happy about it).
                    I don't know what Huntsman is doing, but an easy solution re your imagined catch 22 would be for him to stick to doing due dilligence about what his donatives would be used for and such business, rather than worrying about the social lives of U of U employees. (I don't believe any of the stuff I read on these boards about this, by the way, especially what I read about Huntsman, the Eccles, etc.)
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #55
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      I don't think the situation is funny nor have I ever intimated as much.
                      Nice try. How about your making fun of my describing it as a tragedy?
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • falafel
                        loves to talk on things
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 37836

                        #56
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        I just googled Michael Young sexual affair and there doesn't seem to be any "sex scandal" going on. No laws broken, nothing that grown up people seem to care much about. The only thing that is going on is the kind of sophomoric prurient speculation that seems to be endemic to your adopted socio-culture there in Utah such as leads to massive threads about pornography here. Guess what, the real world isn't interested in Michael Young's personal life, just like it doesn't believe that pornography is going to make the Constitution "hang by a thread". I think you've been spending too much time in utah and it's time for you to return to LA.
                        You mean like speculating about the sexual orientation of a certain BYU baskeball player?
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                        Dig your own grave, and save!

                        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Green Monstah
                          Royal Rooter
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 13885

                          #57
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          I just googled Michael Young sexual affair and there doesn't seem to be any "sex scandal" going on. No laws broken, nothing that grown up people seem to care much about. The only thing that is going on is the kind of sophomoric prurient speculation that seems to be endemic to your adopted socio-culture there in Utah such as leads to massive threads about pornography here. Guess what, the real world isn't interested in Michael Young's personal life, just like it doesn't believe that pornography is going to make the Constitution "hang by a thread". I think you've been spending too much time in utah and it's time for you to return to LA.
                          As you've pointed out, he's not in the "Real World". He's in Utah, which creates certain obstacles due to a good percentage if the populations' personal convictions. The Real World may not be interested, but a GA/Philanthropist may be (like it or not)...again, assuming any of this is true at all.
                          Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                          "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                          • SeattleUte
                            Faith crisis consultant
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 20837

                            #58
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                            Nice try. How about your making fun of my describing it as a tragedy?
                            LA, I have chided you in the past about referring to it as a tragedy. None of us is in any position to judge Michael Young about his divorce or make any judgment about the event at all. This shouldn't be a problem for any of us as this is a pretty easy divorce not to judge, since all his kids appear to be adults.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #59
                              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                              Nice try. How about your making fun of my describing it as a tragedy?
                              You were being melodramatic, at least in my opinion. If I recall correctly, SeattleUte observed something similar, you seemed to not take such an offense.

                              I dont recall ever saying that I found the divorce humorous.
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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #60
                                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                                You mean like speculating about the sexual orientation of a certain BYU baskeball player?
                                Not sure what you're talking about but I agree that the Utah fan base is dismayingly similar to BYU's to a large extent. In fact, in some respects it's worse because of the psychic stress caused by loathing a vital and maybe the most visible branch of their religion.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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