Alright, let's hear your Heaps assessments

[creekster]

No I refer to John David Booty, Matt Leinert, Carson Palmer, etc. He only got Locker late in his career.

If Sarkisian had kicked the chipshot field goal instead of going for it on 4th down near the end of the 1st half, he would have been in a better position to tie at the end of the game, when all momentum was going Washington's way. You would have a different opinion of Locker and would be making coming off a 5-7 season.

For that matter, if Bronco did the same thing on Saturday the game wouldn't have been a miracle. As it was, I am just glad to see which team was living right on and off the field.

Jake Locker is a definitive spread-option QB who is deadly when using his feet, similar to Colin Kaepernick. Watch his game-winning drive against Cal for further reference. He is a stud runner.

Unfortunately the Huskies tried to mold him into a pocket passing QB. The way the Huskies have recruited recently leaves a perfect setup for a solid pocket QB with strong arm, good vision, and the confidence to check down on his receivers. Jake Heaps would have fit the mold perfectly and would likely have been very successful.

Add in a SOPHOMORE running back with back-to-back 1000 yard rushing seasons and speedy receivers like Jermaine Kearse, and it is more obvious that he could have been the missing link to something spectacular.

Heaps is a talented QB with all the physical tools to do the job. I hope he hasn't wasted his parents' $100k private coaching 'investment'.

Your concern for young master Heaps is quite touching. Ute fans are nothing if not altruistic.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Your concern for young master Heaps is quite touching. Ute fans are nothing if not altruistic.

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[NorthwestUteFan]

Your concern for young master Heaps is quite touching. Ute fans are nothing if not altruistic.

That has nothing at all to do with it. Local sports, with the exception of Huskies Basketball, are nothing short of horrendous. All of the teams are very, very bad.

I simply wanted ONE local team to return to glory. Is that too much to ask?

[NorthwestUteFan]

He recieved Locker after his soph. year. That is too late?

It IS when you try to convert a running back who can throw into a solid pocket QB (not to mention building a solid pocket-style team around him).

Locker is an absolute stud. He would have been stellar under Urban Meyer at Florida.

BYU has the same issue as Utah right now. They are relying on young, former players to be their position gurus. A better option would be to hire people with a substantial coaching resume.

[Hsaru]

So Sarkisian a former BYU QB who quickly moved up the coaching ranks can be a QB guru, but Doman a former BYU QB who quickly moved up the coaching ranks can't be a good QB coach? thanks NW Ute fan.

Doman is looking 3/3 so far in developing QBs and looks like he will be 3/3 in developing QBs who make and play in the NFL.

John Beck -> Max Hall -> Jake Heaps, most QB coaches would kill for that resume.

[KillerDog]

I just don't see anyone former BYU quarterback besides Doman having that type of insight to the offense let alone the audibles for certain plays. Audibles change from week to week based on the defense. I understand Detmer has an incredible knowledge of the game but I find it hard to believe that he knows the current offense well enough to give these assumptions. Especially the audibles and when Heaps should have checked out and what he should have checked out to.

I am only relaying what I was told. It is possible he was just making it up and blowing smoke but I doubt it. The whole thing was too matter of fact.

[Hot Lunch]

I am only relaying what I was told. It is possible he was just making it up and blowing smoke but I doubt it. The whole thing was too matter of fact.

I don't doubt that is what you were told and that you are sharing info with us. I would just question it because of the reasons I pointed out.

[MarkGrace]

The freshman has been officially welcomed into the unique fraternity of quarterbacks at BYU. No, he hasn't rocked the world. But he's established himself in the sphere he was placed upon in Provo.

Fraternity? It's a BYU quarterback community that understands aspects of "the challenge" that nobody else can comprehend. It's a closed group; you can't apply for admittance or pay somebody at the door for an entry. You are only welcomed in as a member when invited, as was Heaps' coach, Brandon Doman, and Heaps' predecessor, Max Hall.

On Sunday, Heaps received a phone call from Washington Redskins quarterback John Beck, who has had his share of ups and downs playing in the Utah rivalry. It was a simple call. Beck told Heaps he had the support of fraternity. It was the third call from former BYU quarterbacks Heaps had taken the past seven days including phone calls from Heisman Trophy winner Ty Detmer and NFL Hall of Famer Steve Young.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...form.html?pg=1

Pretty cool.

[Goatnapper'96]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...form.html?pg=1

Pretty cool.

When Beck hit Harline it was a great moment for BYU fans to live vicariously through John Beck. It was such a "Shawshak Redemption" moment. John had travelled through a big pipe of shit and finally had his cleansing redemption. I was hoping somehow a respected member or two of the fraternity would reach out to him and say "today you became one of us."

Heaps might get the phone calls but he ain't got his ticket punched....yet. I think he will and he might get there before his pimples go away.

[Surfah]

When Beck hit Harline it was a great moment for BYU fans to live vicariously through John Beck. It was such a "Shawshak Redemption" moment. John had travelled through a big pipe of shit and finally had his cleansing redemption. I was hoping somehow a respected member or two of the fraternity would reach out to him and say "today you became one of us."

Heaps might get the phone calls but he ain't got his ticket punched....yet. I think he will and he might get there before his pimples go away.

That really is a perfect analogy for Beck and his career culminating in that final play.

[MarkGrace]

That really is a perfect analogy for Beck and his career culminating in that final play.

Something about "taking it in the ass from the sisters" might have made the analogy just a bit better.

[SoCalCoug]

I hate it when people try and fish for who said what when it is clear this is not the forum to share.

It was a joke. My intent was not to fish for information. Just a bad joke.

[Coach McGuirk]

It IS when you try to convert a running back who can throw into a solid pocket QB (not to mention building a solid pocket-style team around him).

Locker is an absolute stud. He would have been stellar under Urban Meyer at Florida.

Good to know. I will discard your opinion on football going forward.

[oxcoug]

Kind of stunning to process this but -

Heaps had a better PER against Utah on Saturday than Hall had in any one of his three games against Utah. Because we ended up winning 2 of the 3 BYU fans largely forget that Max really did suck in every game against Utah. This is a guy who completed 62% of his passes on his career who only managed to complete 50% in 1 of 3 games - and in that one he threw 5 INTs.

The reality is - and heaven knows I love Mad Max - Max shat himself Wynn-style in all of his games against Utah. He threw one truly great pass last year.

He played hard and gritty and made runs and did the extra stuff to compensate but he was out of his element in all three games against Utah.

Heaps looked more poised on Saturday as a true frosh against Utah than Max did as a Senior.

[Flystripper]

Kind of stunning to process this but -

Heaps had a better PER against Utah on Saturday than Hall had in any one of his three games against Utah. Because we ended up winning 2 of the 3 BYU fans largely forget that Max really did suck in every game against Utah. This is a guy who completed 62% of his passes on his career who only managed to complete 50% in 1 of 3 games - and in that one he threw 5 INTs.

The reality is - and heaven knows I love Mad Max - Max shat himself Wynn-style in all of his games against Utah. He threw one truly great pass last year.

He played hard and gritty and made runs and did the extra stuff to compensate but he was out of his element in all three games against Utah.

Heaps looked more poised on Saturday as a true frosh against Utah than Max did as a Senior.

All true, however, these stats were not achieved in a vacuum. Utah's secondary was not nearly as good in 2010 as they were in 2007-2009. Max faced a significantly better defense in each of his 3 games.