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  • #46
    Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
    I feel bad for them because everyone disrespects their schedule, so they make a move to a stronger conference, only to see the 3 best teams leave. Now they're in a conference that's a little better competitively, but they lose the exposure of playing on ESPN.
    I say that Boise St is way better off in the MWC than they were in the WAC.

    1) They are playing regional rivals that they have wanted for a long time.
    2) No more tuesday, wednesday, Friday or Sunday games.
    3) Better Bowl game for when they dont go to the BCS. If they don't get selected for the BCS this year they could play the third place MAC team in Boise. If Boise St jumps TCU... TCU will play in Vegas. Big difference.

    People vastly overrate the ESPN affect. TCU jumped Boise this year and last. Utah jumped them in 2008.
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
      I would be willing to bet that bringing on Hawaii for just football and what BYU was asking for were on very opposite ends of the spectrum.
      While I agree with that, I'm referring more to the fact that the MWC would not allow a partial member in it's conference. Meaning BYU football indy and all others MWC. Hawaii allegedly, seems to be getting this deal which is clearly against MWC bylaws.

      Anyway, no big deal. I'm glad to be done with the MWC.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
        I say that Boise St is way better off in the MWC than they were in the WAC.

        1) They are playing regional rivals that they have wanted for a long time.
        2) No more tuesday, wednesday, Friday or Sunday games.
        3) Better Bowl game for when they dont go to the BCS. If they don't get selected for the BCS this year they could play the third place MAC team in Boise. If Boise St jumps TCU... TCU will play in Vegas. Big difference.

        People vastly overrate the ESPN affect. TCU jumped Boise this year and last. Utah jumped them in 2008.
        And you are vastly underrating the effect ESPN has on recruiting.

        One of two things is going to happen:

        1. Boise St. is going to drop into the shitter on recruiting because they will no longer be televised. (Because we know the mtn distribution is limited to say the least.

        2. Utah is going to get better recruits because they are now on a better television contract.

        I in fact think both of those are going to happen, and they are both going to happen because of television contracts. Not because BSU is going to the MWC and UU is going to PAC12. It will be because of the TV contract.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
          While I agree with that, I'm referring more to the fact that the MWC would not allow a partial member in it's conference. Meaning BYU football indy and all others MWC. Hawaii allegedly, seems to be getting this deal which is clearly against MWC bylaws.

          Anyway, no big deal. I'm glad to be done with the MWC.
          Well since football is the money maker do you blame them? Leaving the other sports in the conference doesn't do anything the MWC.
          "Take it to the Bank"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
            While I agree with that, I'm referring more to the fact that the MWC would not allow a partial member in it's conference. Meaning BYU football indy and all others MWC. Hawaii allegedly, seems to be getting this deal which is clearly against MWC bylaws.

            Anyway, no big deal. I'm glad to be done with the MWC.
            If BYU wanted to stay in the MWC for football and have the rest of its sports go independent, instead of vice-versa, I'm sure the MWC would have listened.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
              Well since football is the money maker do you blame them? Leaving the other sports in the conference doesn't do anything the MWC.
              No, I don't blame them. Can't a brother just point out some hypocrisy?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                If BYU wanted to stay in the MWC for football and have the rest of its sports go independent, instead of vice-versa, I'm sure the MWC would have listened.
                Maybe, but that proposition is stupid.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  Maybe, but that proposition is stupid.
                  It is stupid and I am sure that it wasn't even brought up by BYU.
                  "Take it to the Bank"

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                    No, I don't blame them. Can't a brother just point out some hypocrisy?
                    You can point it out but when you are dealing with scenarios that are different and impact the conference differently I don't think it is hypocrisy.
                    "Take it to the Bank"

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                      You can point it out but when you are dealing with scenarios that are different and impact the conference differently I don't think it is hypocrisy.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                        And you are vastly underrating the effect ESPN has on recruiting.

                        One of two things is going to happen:

                        1. Boise St. is going to drop into the shitter on recruiting because they will no longer be televised. (Because we know the mtn distribution is limited to say the least.

                        2. Utah is going to get better recruits because they are now on a better television contract.

                        I in fact think both of those are going to happen, and they are both going to happen because of television contracts. Not because BSU is going to the MWC and UU is going to PAC12. It will be because of the TV contract.
                        its not like Boise st is getting blue chippers now. Their recruits are going to be the same as if they stayed in the wac.
                        "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                        "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                          And you are vastly underrating the effect ESPN has on recruiting.

                          One of two things is going to happen:

                          1. Boise St. is going to drop into the shitter on recruiting because they will no longer be televised. (Because we know the mtn distribution is limited to say the least.

                          2. Utah is going to get better recruits because they are now on a better television contract.

                          I in fact think both of those are going to happen, and they are both going to happen because of television contracts. Not because BSU is going to the MWC and UU is going to PAC12. It will be because of the TV contract.
                          Damn that ESPN for holding Utah back from winning the national championship in 2008. Certainly with what you're saying, the ESPN effect is good for at least a one-spot bump in the polls, right?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                            No, I don't blame them. Can't a brother just point out some hypocrisy?
                            Draped in persecution complex?
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                            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                              You can point it out but when you are dealing with scenarios that are different and impact the conference differently I don't think it is hypocrisy.
                              If you want to call it hypocrisy or not it doesn't matter to me. MWC played hardball and they lost. So now they're doing everything they can to remain viable. I don't fault the MWC for that at all. But I also don't give a rat's ass what the MWC does now.
                              "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                              -Turtle
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                                Maybe, but that proposition is stupid.
                                Exactly. It doesn't make sense. But it does for the MWC and Hawaii.

                                There's a segment of BYU fans who can't get over the fact that there are other programs that bring different/better benefits to the table. That's why Hawaii is a no-brainer for this kind of deal.

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