Heaps

[smokymountainrain]

It's not optimism, it's that there is no one else.

So are we convinced Lark is really that bad? That's a sincere question, because I have no idea how good Lark is. He could be Andrew Luck or he could be Brett Engemann for all I know. .

[woot]

So are we convinced Lark is really that bad? That's a sincere question, because I have no idea how good Lark is. He could be Andrew Luck or he could be Brett Engemann for all I know. .

It seems reasonable to assume he's terrible because he hasn't sniffed the field despite the two guys ahead of him being mediocre or worse. I have to trust the coaches at least that much.

[smokymountainrain]

It seems reasonable to assume he's terrible because he hasn't sniffed the field despite the two guys ahead of him being mediocre or worse. I have to trust the coaches at least that much.

I agree somewhat, but...some guys are gamers, some guys just get it done in practice. The coaches have only seen Lark in practice and based on what I've heard about Lark in practice he was even pretty good there anyway. If he's terrible, why did they recruit him? And if they used bad judgement in recruiting him, it seems reasonable that they are using bad judgement in who they are choosing to play the games.

[woot]

I agree somewhat, but...some guys are gamers, some guys just get it done in practice. The coaches have only seen Lark in practice and based on what I've heard about Lark in practice he was even pretty good there anyway. If he's terrible, why did they recruit him? And if they used bad judgement in recruiting him, it seems reasonable that they are using bad judgement in who they are choosing to play the games.

That's not really how it works. Heaps was the #1 QB and he blows. Lark was a high-3-mid-4-star guy, so clearly a lot of people thought he had potential. Nevertheless, I don't actually trust the judgment of these coaches, so you may be right that Lark needs a shot. Lark has a strong arm, has been in the program longer than either of the QBs getting PT, and could potentially be a game-control style QB for us. I'll state again for the record that I would prefer some combination of Nelson and Lark next year to give Heaps the best chance of developing before his eligibility runs out. If Heaps doesn't want to redshirt and threatens to transfer, all the more reason to not play him.

[smokymountainrain]

That's not really how it works. Heaps was the #1 QB and he blows. Lark was a high-3-mid-4-star guy, so clearly a lot of people thought he had potential. Nevertheless, I don't actually trust the judgment of these coaches, so you may be right that Lark needs a shot. Lark has a strong arm, has been in the program longer than either of the QBs getting PT, and could potentially be a game-control style QB for us. I'll state again for the record that I would prefer some combination of Nelson and Lark next year to give Heaps the best chance of developing before his eligibility runs out. If Heaps doesn't want to redshirt and threatens to transfer, all the more reason to not play him.

I think this is all I'm saying. Here's what we know:

1. Heaps isn't getting it done.
2. While Nelson has heart and toughness, he can't throw the ball.

I think that is enough reason to throw Lark in there and see what he can do. He has the physical tools and was good enough in HS that he should get an opportunity on a team without another decent option at QB.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Heaps = J.D. McCoy
Nelson = Matt Saracen

[MarkGrace]

Heaps = J.D. McCoy
Nelson = Matt Saracen

You get the same score as Sizzle last night: a big FNFail.

[MartyFunkhouser]

You get the same score as Sizzle last night: a big FNFail.

Fail isn't quite right. Probably more of a C grade. Heaps is pretty much dead on for J.D. McCoy. Nelson as Saracen is a bit of a stretch, I'll admit that. Saracen actually had the ability to throw the ball. However, the Nelson long completion on the last drive was not that far off from Saracen's heave at the end of episode 1.

[MarkGrace]

Fail isn't quite right. Probably more of a C grade. Heaps is pretty much dead on for J.D. McCoy. Nelson as Saracen is a bit of a stretch, I'll admit that. Saracen actually had the ability to throw the ball. However, the Nelson long completion on the last drive was not that far off from Saracen's heave at the end of episode 1.

No. This is the worst part of the analogy.

[SeattleUte]

It's the coaching. Keith Price was a low BCS, mid-major recruit. Look how he's doing compared to Heaps.

[Green Monstah]

It's the coaching. Keith Price was a low BCS, mid-major recruit. Look how he's doing compared to Heaps.

You're absolutely right.

[UteStar]

2010, out of 116 quarterbacks
#38 Jordan Wynn: 139.9
#98 Jake Heaps: 116.2

2011, out of 119 quarterbacks
#81 Jordan Wynn, 123.2
#113 Jake Heaps, 97.7

Both quarterbacks have had their QB rating drop by about the same percentage, about 10-15% drop from the previous year.

[YOhio]

In his interview with DJ and PK, Harmon mentioned that Jake was restricted from practicing over the summer due to a medical problem (Heaps talks starts @ 10:20). Maybe I've been on outer space, but this is the first I've heard of this.

[woot]

In his interview with DJ and PK, Harmon mentioned that Jake was restricted from practicing over the summer due to a medical problem (Heaps talks starts @ 10:20). Maybe I've been on outer space, but this is the first I've heard of this.

His rib injury from last season was described as being pretty serious. Maybe it took a few months to heal?

[oxcoug]

In his interview with DJ and PK, Harmon mentioned that Jake was restricted from practicing over the summer due to a medical problem (Heaps talks starts @ 10:20). Maybe I've been on outer space, but this is the first I've heard of this.

Hmmm weird. There was some post on CB not that long ago being about Jake having some undisclosed issues over the summer.

But that's very odd - I mean - we never heard about him not practicing did we? So what was the restriction?