Non-Conference Scheduling rumors

[TripletDaddy]

Do you really think that is a "history" that has any sort of relevance today? That's what he was getting at. I mean, look at BYU and Montana. Great history in the 30's through 60's.

It means nothing.

BoylenOver also thought that Utah playing in the Coliseum for the first time in a half century would merit a visit from College Game Day.

[oxcoug]

Utah and Colorado played each other every single year between 1903 and 1962.

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I'm curious about how this used to go down between, say, 1903 and 1910.

There weren't cars let alone team buses. SLC to Boulder is an 8 hour drive even today.

How did dudes get from A to B to play road games?

[myboynoah]

Do you really think that is a "history" that has any sort of relevance today? That's what he was getting at. I mean, look at BYU and Montana. Great history in the 30's through 60's.

It means nothing.

What are you talking about?

The Official Utah-Colorado Rivalry Thread

[TripletDaddy]

I'm curious about how this used to go down between, say, 1903 and 1910.

There weren't cars let alone team buses. SLC to Boulder is an 8 hour drive even today.

How did dudes get from A to B to play road games?

Trains?

[oxcoug]

Trains?

I prefer to blow right past braindead obvious answers to some more esoteric possibilities - primitive, Da Vinci model helicopters?

[TripletDaddy]

Either you're trolling, or you don't know shit about Utah.

Utah and Colorado played each other every single year between 1903 and 1962.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div...hp?teamid=3345

I just checked your link.

Looks like nobody knows their sh** about Utah.

[LiveCoug]

I prefer to blow right past braindead obvious answers to some more esoteric possibilities - primitive, Da Vinci model helicopters?

I hear Buffalo can run at a swiftly 30-40 MPH... Perhaps that?

[TripletDaddy]

I prefer to blow right past braindead obvious answers to some more esoteric possibilities - primitive, Da Vinci model helicopters?

Inspired by that guy who walked from Alpine to the SLC temple to carve stone every week, the Utes walked to Colorado.

[LiveCoug]

I just checked your link.

Looks like nobody knows their sh** about Utah.

Plus, they didn't play in 1909, 1918, 1959 or 1960... Every single year nothing.

[TripletDaddy]

Plus, they didn't play in 1909, 1918, 1959 or 1960... Every single year nothing.

Yes, that is what I was getting at. BoylenOver has gone silent because he is shocked into shame right now, licking is wounds after such a profane display of bravado.

[old_gregg]

there is no more dangerous a rival than one who has lain dormant for half a century!

[LA Ute]

Either you're trolling, or you don't know shit about Utah.

Occam's Razor. CMBF would proudly admit it.

[LA Ute]

Look guys, I'll tell you what I know and I'll give you enough information so that those of you who know anything about me can recognize that this is legit.

When the U was negotiating with the Pac-10 and the Pac was doing their due diligence, they were meeting with a group of people. In that group was a man I know. During breaks in the negotiations, I would talk to that man. After the deal was struck, he told me what went down. He told me of Utah's concerns and of Utah's positions. He said there was only one deal breaker and it was the ability (flexibility) to schedule BYU. He said Utah insisted and the Pac agreed that Utah should have the same deal with the Pac in relation to BYU that USC has in relation to Notre Dame. He described that deal as "the ability to put BYU in the schedule each year before any other games are scheduled." He further said it was a condition because the people that mattered wouldn't go for the Pac-10 absent BYU without some assurance that the BYU rivalry would continue without break. The current game is scheduled when it is because it was what the two schools collectively decided was best. Future games will be scheduled in the same manner. These two schools, according to my friend, are so intertwined that it would severely damage either school to separate them. He called them conjoined twins.

This isn't speculation based on public posturing. This isn't information from a cousin's cousin. This is information I heard directly from a man who sat at the table and voted for the move to the Pac-10. Since my conversations with him I've had things he told me which are not publicly known verified by the Utah coaching staff and athletic department members. They all seem surprised by the knowledge. As a result, I have additional reason to trust the information.

I'm not saying the rivalry game will be in November or anything like that but if it isn't, it won't be because of the Pac-10. It will be because of BYU and Utah, their needs, internal dynamics, and donor pressure.

For those of you who think Utah is "above" BYU and will dictate the terms of engagement from now on, you don't understand the dynamic between the schools that well. For those of you who think BYU is "above" Utah and looking for a reason to stop the relationship, you are out of your minds too. I understand Utah to the Pac-10 strained the relationship a bit because of the understandings of the parties but the relationship is still as strong as a relationship gets in the universe of college relationships.

One of the interesting things about the whole Utah to the PAC-12 story is the bits and pieces of information that are out there. The ones you report, KD, have the ring of truth. I'll just add one thought, that it's my understanding that discussions that took place during the "due diligence" phase were not negotiations and key deal points weren't struck then. Rather, the wishes of key representatives of each side were clarified.

I also understand that the PAC-10 was not asking that Utah not schedule BYU (that seems like a bizarre request anyway, when I think about it), and that both the PAC and Utah were very worried that the Utah Legislature would try to stop the move. That is the primary reason Utah wanted to go into the PAC in 2011 despite taking a big hit on TV money, so that there would be less time for legislative mischief. It's also a reason that Utah needed to be free to schedule BYU, in order to avoid opposition from key players in the state.

I can state with a lot of confidence that playing the rivalry game at the end of the season, as much as fans like me would like that, is not something anyone on the Utah side is pushing for. I don't know about the BYU side.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Either you're trolling, or you don't know shit about Utah.

Utah and Colorado played each other every single year between 1903 and 1962.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div...hp?teamid=3345

lol, you mean this hot and heavy rivalry that hasn't been played since the Kennedy Administration? Thanks for proving my point. I'm sure everyone in Boulder has been pissed off about that loss from the 1950s. Good grief.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Occam's Razor. CMBF would proudly admit it.

The fewest assumptions case calls for the conclusion that one should rationally think that there is no rivalry between teams that haven't played each other in 50 years. Are you guys serious with this stuff?