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  • old_gregg
    scaly man fish
    • Nov 2009
    • 16915

    #3841
    you'd have to guess there's some kind of optionality built in if we had a p5 conference invite
    Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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    • Pelado
      Bald not naked
      • Sep 2010
      • 21136

      #3842
      Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
      you'd have to guess there's some kind of optionality built in if we had a p5 conference invite
      From what I remember, the contracts that I've seen had no cancellation fee if BYU was admitted to a P5 and gave at least one year notice.

      I'm guessing that they're trying to reschedule games as much as possible rather than just outright cancel them. I remember hearing somewhere that their new Big 12 brethren were also willing to take on some of the nonconference games that BYU can't keep.
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
      - Goatnapper'96

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      • Moliere
        One man.....one pie
        • Oct 2009
        • 27860

        #3843
        Originally posted by Pelado View Post

        From what I remember, the contracts that I've seen had no cancellation fee if BYU was admitted to a P5 and gave at least one year notice.

        I'm guessing that they're trying to reschedule games as much as possible rather than just outright cancel them. I remember hearing somewhere that their new Big 12 brethren were also willing to take on some of the nonconference games that BYU can't keep.
        Holmoe expressly said those contracts had an out if BYU were admitted to a P5.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #3844
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post

          Holmoe expressly said those contracts had an out if BYU were admitted to a P5.
          I would think that is reference to a home-and-home series, hence the remaining home-and-home element of the UVA contract was easily nullified. But I doubt that would apply where BYU stil owes or would still owe the other school a visit (as will be the case with Arkansas).
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • All-American
            Right, as Usual
            • Nov 2008
            • 15658

            #3845
            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
            you'd have to guess there's some kind of optionality built in if we had a p5 conference invite
            No guesswork necessary. There is an express cancellation clause that allows BYU to cancel if they get in.

            τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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            • Pelado
              Bald not naked
              • Sep 2010
              • 21136

              #3846
              Originally posted by All-American View Post

              No guesswork necessary. There is an express cancellation clause that allows BYU to cancel if they get in.

              https://www.kansascity.com/sports/co...20&%202020.pdf
              Gracias. Looks like 18 months of notice instead of the 12 months I posted above.
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
              - Goatnapper'96

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              • Omaha 680
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 11178

                #3847
                Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                Gracias. Looks like 18 months of notice instead of the 12 months I posted above.
                But to mbn's point above, per the end of section 3B, cancelation due to P5 invite is only free and clear if the series is cancelled. If one of the games has already been played, at a minimum the second game has to he rescheduled at a mutually agreeable time. So if that same language is in the Ark contract, we probably end up playing at Arkansas in 2023. Right?

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                • USUC
                  Chronic Poseur
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 8782

                  #3848
                  I've been watching more Big-XII football this year than usual because of the invite. Kansas really is the only bad team in the conference. I am preparing for .500 conference record the first couple of years. A light non conference would be great. If BYU plays Arkansas in 2023, I kind of hope the other FBS team is a cupcake.

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                  • Omaha 680
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 11178

                    #3849
                    Originally posted by USUC View Post
                    I've been watching more Big-XII football this year than usual because of the invite. Kansas really is the only bad team in the conference. I am preparing for .500 conference record the first couple of years. A light non conference would be great. If BYU plays Arkansas in 2023, I kind of hope the other FBS team is a cupcake.
                    I don't want us to cancel a Tennessee visit to Provo. Not easy to get SEC teams to go west of the Central Time Zone. First year is going to be difficult but if we end up with both Tennessee and Arkansas on the non-conference schedule I'm ok with that.

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                    • USUC
                      Chronic Poseur
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 8782

                      #3850
                      Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                      I don't want us to cancel a Tennessee visit to Provo. Not easy to get SEC teams to go west of the Central Time Zone. First year is going to be difficult but if we end up with both Tennessee and Arkansas on the non-conference schedule I'm ok with that.
                      This is the alpha way to look at this. Play the best schedule you can. But I'm weak stomached right now

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                      • Pelado
                        Bald not naked
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21136

                        #3851
                        Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                        But to mbn's point above, per the end of section 3B, cancelation due to P5 invite is only free and clear if the series is cancelled. If one of the games has already been played, at a minimum the second game has to he rescheduled at a mutually agreeable time. So if that same language is in the Ark contract, we probably end up playing at Arkansas in 2023. Right?
                        That looks correct.
                        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                        - Goatnapper'96

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                        • Omaha 680
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 11178

                          #3852
                          Originally posted by USUC View Post

                          This is the alpha way to look at this. Play the best schedule you can. But I'm weak stomached right now
                          Oh I have my limits. That's why I said ditch the Utah State game in 2023. First because @Utah State is a little more of a challenge than I want for our third non-conference game and second because two of our non-conference games need to be home games.

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                          • myboynoah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 21719

                            #3853
                            Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                            Oh I have my limits. That's why I said ditch the Utah State game in 2023. First because @Utah State is a little more of a challenge than I want for our third non-conference game and second because two of our non-conference games need to be home games.
                            Agreed.
                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                            • USUC
                              Chronic Poseur
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 8782

                              #3854
                              First series casualty

                              @DaytonRobison @mmoss_10 @PolarisMan17 @boise_edits @BSUbluNorange @BleedBlueGoug One more game with them and then done...for now. They have been awesome to work with. Challenging for them as an independent. Utah and Utah State also important to their base. I have hope we can get a H/H in future bu…

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                              • RC Vikings
                                Known Heterosexual
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 8789

                                #3855
                                Originally posted by USUC View Post
                                This will make one week a year more comfortable for me around here. It's to bad, I think it was a good series.

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