A terrible realization about BYU

[Portland Ute]

He's going to Cancun next week, cut him some slack.

Hey! How did you know that!

[old_gregg]

BYU's is slightly better

BYU, the genesis of many teams' offenses (i would say contributory to a majority of them) right now, has no tradition? byu, who had eight heisman finalists in 11 years?

utah has been to two meaningful bowl games. boise state has more tradition than utah.

[Green Monstah]

I never claimed Utah to have great tradition. Nor a national fanbase. Nor 14 million fans world-wide.

I don't think Utah has anything more than an above average tradition at this point. BYU's is slightly better.

See, I can admit BYU has a better tradition. Can you, cj, ever admit that Utah is better at something or in a better position?

Why the name calling? YOu don't even know me, man.

If it makes you feel any better, I think BYU comes out of this in a better position than they were in 2 weeks ago. I think BYU lands on it's feet. I see why BYU did what they did. I feel bad about all the collateral damage, but since Utah's not part of the scorched earth, I really don't care that much.

Dickhead? Man. SO harsh.

Stop eating the mushrooms that grow on cow dung in Oregon. Slightly?

[Blueintheface]

Why is it difficult for some BYU fans to admit that the timing of this move to independence was directly related to Utah's invite? I'm not saying it started when Utah was invited or even started when BCS conference realignment got started earlier this year, but why is it so hard to admit that Utah's departure signaled the right time to move? If independence was in the works, which it obviously was for a long time, than it's simply logical timing and made perfect sense before reaching the Sept. 1st deadline.

I couldn't care less what Utah fans feel about BYU's decision so for BYU fans to feel insecure about the decision simply because of what they are hearing from Utah fans is silly IMO. Make your decision based on how you feel this will end up for BYU, not because your Ute coworkers tell you it's doomed to fail.

Man this has been a weird summer.

[beelzebabette]

Stop eating the mushrooms that grow on cow dung in Oregon. Slightly?

I'd argue tradition is mostly just good for momentum going forward (and some fabulous smile-to-your-face memories). The U's doing fine on momentum so I don't know where you're going with this.

[ERCougar]

Why is it difficult for some BYU fans to admit that the timing of this move to independence was directly related to Utah's invite? I'm not saying it started when Utah was invited or even started when BCS conference realignment got started earlier this year, but why is it so hard to admit that Utah's departure signaled the right time to move? If independence was in the works, which it obviously was for a long time, than it's simply logical timing and made perfect sense before reaching the Sept. 1st deadline.

I couldn't care less what Utah fans feel about BYU's decision so for BYU fans to feel insecure about the decision simply because of what they are hearing from Utah fans is silly IMO. Make your decision based on how you feel this will end up for BYU, not because your Ute coworkers tell you it's doomed to fail.

Man this has been a weird summer.

BYU's move had everything to do with Utah's move. No way does independence look good next to a MWC with TCU, Utah, and BSU, and an almost certain auto-bid. However, that situation changed, so BYU acted.

That's very different from saying BYU is trying to keep up with Utah, which is SU's implication.

[falafel]

Why is it difficult for some BYU fans to admit that the timing of this move to independence was directly related to Utah's invite? I'm not saying it started when Utah was invited or even started when BCS conference realignment got started earlier this year, but why is it so hard to admit that Utah's departure signaled the right time to move? If independence was in the works, which it obviously was for a long time, than it's simply logical timing and made perfect sense before reaching the Sept. 1st deadline.

I couldn't care less what Utah fans feel about BYU's decision so for BYU fans to feel insecure about the decision simply because of what they are hearing from Utah fans is silly IMO. Make your decision based on how you feel this will end up for BYU, not because your Ute coworkers tell you it's doomed to fail.

Man this has been a weird summer.

I think its clear that we wouldn't be going anywhere if Utah were still in the MWC. But I don't think the potential move to independence has anything to do with an attempt to one-up the Utes or even just keep from losing ground .

[ERCougar]

I think its clear that we wouldn't be going anywhere if Utah were still in the MWC. But I don't think the potential move to independence has anything to do with an attempt to one-up the Utes or even just keep from losing ground .

My turn:


You're really smart lately.

[creekster]

Why is it difficult for some BYU fans to admit that the timing of this move to independence was directly related to Utah's invite? I'm not saying it started when Utah was invited or even started when BCS conference realignment got started earlier this year, but why is it so hard to admit that Utah's departure signaled the right time to move? If independence was in the works, which it obviously was for a long time, than it's simply logical timing and made perfect sense before reaching the Sept. 1st deadline.

I couldn't care less what Utah fans feel about BYU's decision so for BYU fans to feel insecure about the decision simply because of what they are hearing from Utah fans is silly IMO. Make your decision based on how you feel this will end up for BYU, not because your Ute coworkers tell you it's doomed to fail.

Man this has been a weird summer.

Is it ahrd to admit? I admit it. How could one deny it?

[Blueintheface]

BYU's move had everything to do with Utah's move. No way does independence look good next to a MWC with TCU, Utah, and BSU, and an almost certain auto-bid. However, that situation changed, so BYU acted.

That's very different from saying BYU is trying to keep up with Utah, which is SU's implication.

And SU isn't alone in that as a Ute fan. My contention as a BYU fan is to turn off all of the white noise and wait for the end game in all of this. We are truly the "NOW!" generation and if we don't see immediate results in this realtime media environment we all start freaking out.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Stop eating the mushrooms that grow on cow dung in Oregon. Slightly?

It is more herb than shrooms here, FYI.

[Blueintheface]

Is it ahrd to admit? I admit it. How could one deny it?

I'm still looking for where I said Creekster in my post. Nope, not there.

[falafel]

My turn:


You're really smart lately.

Lately?

[creekster]

I'm still looking for where I said Creekster in my post. Nope, not there.

It just seems to me that the BYU fan not admitting thing is a bit of a strawman rolled out by Ute fans.

[Blueintheface]

I think its clear that we wouldn't be going anywhere if Utah were still in the MWC. But I don't think the potential move to independence has anything to do with an attempt to one-up the Utes or even just keep from losing ground .

Nor did I suggest that...and I'm not saying that you said that I said that she said that I suggested it either.