Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski
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How come nobody is outraged about liberty being left out of the CFP? They earned it!
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They should have done the unpopular thing and left the SEC out. Florida state should have been in but I have a hard time feeling bad for them.
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Looking forward to the Utah/UCF style national championship that Florida state and Liberty will claim if they win their bowl game!

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Originally posted by All-American View Post
I do feel bad for them. The idea that you can win every game and not be considered for the championship is obscene.
But on behalf of BYU, Tulane, Marshall, and any number of other have-nots that were left on the outside looking in because you kept the system just small enough to keep them out, I say, enjoy the bed you made for yourself.
The ACC, PAC12 and BIG10 (the "Alliance") all voted in February 2022 against playoff expansion. The vote was 8 for and 3 against out of all 10 FBS conferences plus Notre Dame, but it had to be unanimous.
What happened next? The PAC12 imploded this year (so much for that alliance) and the ACC and FSU got screwed this year. Karma always comes a-knockin'.
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So stupid. If you run thru a p5 conference, plus a very challenging (read: sec) out of conference slate you should definitely be in.
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I do feel bad for them. The idea that you can win every game and not be considered for the championship is obscene.Originally posted by BigPiney View PostLol at Florida state. They created this problem and voted against expansion of the playoffs. Screw them.
But on behalf of BYU, Tulane, Marshall, and any number of other have-nots that were left on the outside looking in because you kept the system just small enough to keep them out, I say, enjoy the bed you made for yourself.
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Lol at Florida state. They created this problem and voted against expansion of the playoffs. Screw them.
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Both are difficult but deciding who is best is more objective than deciding who is deserving.Originally posted by beefytee View Post
Right. I don’t like their process of trying to get the “best” teams. It is tough to go undefeated in any circumstance in college football. Put the undefeated teams out there. If they get destroyed, Great! Then there isn’t any “what ifs” after the season. No one would be claiming that SMU would have been successful had they got their shot with their two losses.
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Right. I don’t like their process of trying to get the “best” teams. It is tough to go undefeated in any circumstance in college football. Put the undefeated teams out there. If they get destroyed, Great! Then there isn’t any “what ifs” after the season. No one would be claiming that SMU would have been successful had they got their shot with their two losses.Originally posted by USUC View Post
Liberty's SOS is garbage. My guess is SMU gets put ahead of them by the committee.
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Liberty's SOS is garbage. My guess is SMU gets put ahead of them by the committee.Originally posted by beefytee View PostI would like to see things settled on the field. I don’t really care if the “best” four teams are in. Put the 3 undefeated P5 teams in. And then probably put Texas in since they beat Alabama on the road.
In an 8 team playoff, Liberty also makes it in being undefeated and arguably the highest ranked p5.
I think 12 teams is too much. Too many second and third chances there.
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The committee has been preparing everyone for the exclusion of FSU for the past two weeks. They say their criteria are the "best teams," not "most deserving."Originally posted by Maximus View PostCan you punish them for having 3rd string qb when 2nd string will play?
But they'llthrobably leave them out with the missing qb justification
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I would like to see things settled on the field. I don’t really care if the “best” four teams are in. Put the 3 undefeated P5 teams in. And then probably put Texas in since they beat Alabama on the road.
In an 8 team playoff, Liberty also makes it in being undefeated and arguably the highest ranked p5.
I think 12 teams is too much. Too many second and third chances there.
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