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  • #31
    Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Isn't this some crazy system that someone on CB was hyping a few years ago? I remember someone, I think from Texas, was hyping it as something being done by a local HS team and it would change football forever.

    That would be the A-11 Offense and it was founded in California. In my view it's an abomination.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shaka View Post
      That would be the A-11 Offense and it was founded in California. In my view it's an abomination.
      They closed the loophole on it, didn't they? I don't think the formations are legal anymore.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by beefytee View Post
        They closed the loophole on it, didn't they? I don't think the formations are legal anymore.
        Yes it was illegal as of last year.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
          Are you talking about the way they used Tebow? I guess I don't consider that a 2 qb system. They used Tebow in certain situations. I guess when I think of a two qb system, I think of both qb's getting equal reps during a game like South Carolina did a couple of years ago. I think Oregon St. did it as well recently. I also think Oregon did it at one point with Dixon and Leaf as well.
          Ok, that's fair. That's how I imagine it working with BYU. Outside of that I don't think it would be great. Washington did it several years ago with two guys that ended up in the NFL. Hobert and Brunell. I don't think Nelson is an NFL QB and it remains to be seen if Heaps is an NFL caliber player. However, they are different enough and we've seen the wildcat used effectively enough to believe it is possible that it can work in the Florida model if BYU wants to play both of them.
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          • #35
            I still don't understand. Back when Nelson announced he was transferring to BYU after his mission, Goatnapper told me in the most colorful of terms that Nelson was not very talented, was just going to be an "insurance" backup QB, and was lucky BYU stooped to offer him a scholie. What's going on here?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
              I still don't understand. Back when Nelson announced he was transferring to BYU after his mission, Goatnapper told me in the most colorful of terms that Nelson was not very talented, was just going to be an "insurance" backup QB, and was lucky BYU stooped to offer him a scholie. What's going on here?
              Doman must be a heck of a coach.
              A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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              • #37
                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                I still don't understand. Back when Nelson announced he was transferring to BYU after his mission, Goatnapper told me in the most colorful of terms that Nelson was not very talented, was just going to be an "insurance" backup QB, and was lucky BYU stooped to offer him a scholie. What's going on here?
                IMO, its mainly because Lark and Munns haven't shown they can do anything. If either of them develop at all, Nelson drops to 3rd or 4th pretty quick.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  I still don't understand. Back when Nelson announced he was transferring to BYU after his mission, Goatnapper told me in the most colorful of terms that Nelson was not very talented, was just going to be an "insurance" backup QB, and was lucky BYU stooped to offer him a scholie. What's going on here?
                  I think that I thought the same thing Napper did. I just didn't express it the way he did. I think BYU was planning on Munns or Lark taking over this year but sometimes plans just don't work out. Both were very highly recruited coming out of high school. In all honesty, I am still not convinced Riley will be a good D-1 quarterback. I think he runs better than the average q.b. and can make some plays with his legs but having watched him many times I don't feel like he can make plays with his arm. Teams will stack the box and run man on the receivers because they won't respect his throwing ability. He is battling it out with a true freshman right now and can't really separate himself.

                  Ideally, you never want a true freshman at that position. As good as Jake is going to be (I think he is going to be really good BTW), he is going to have some major growing pains this year. Stepping in a playing Q.B. one year removed from High School is probably one of the hardest transitions to make in all of sports.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CJF View Post
                    Doman must be a heck of a coach.
                    He really is actually. I personally think that Coach Doman is the most important asset BYU football has. I also think that Robert Anae will have to be shown the door this next season in order to promote Doman to OC. If they don't, they risk losing him. He is that good. I would almost put money on him being the next Head Coach at BYU.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                      He really is actually. I personally think that Coach Doman is the most important asset BYU football has. I also think that Robert Anae will have to be shown the door this next season in order to promote Doman to OC. If they don't, they risk losing him. He is that good. I would almost put money on him being the next Head Coach at BYU.
                      I agree. I was just being snarky because LA keeps harping on the Nelson transfer. I worry that Doman is going to have to go somewhere else before he is able to come back and become the head coach. I just don't see Bronco pushing Anae out. Especially since he didn't make the call to hire him in the first place.
                      A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by CJF View Post
                        I agree. I was just being snarky because LA keeps harping on the Nelson transfer. I worry that Doman is going to have to go somewhere else before he is able to come back and become the head coach. I just don't see Bronco pushing Anae out. Especially since he didn't make the call to hire him in the first place.
                        If he doesn't and Doman walks, that might be the worst thing that could happen to that program right now. Knowing what I know, I really feel like Doman is even more important to BYU football than Bronco is.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by CJF View Post
                          I agree. I was just being snarky because LA keeps harping on the Nelson transfer. I worry that Doman is going to have to go somewhere else before he is able to come back and become the head coach. I just don't see Bronco pushing Anae out. Especially since he didn't make the call to hire him in the first place.
                          All right, I will stop now. I was just teasing the Napper man over what a sensitive nerve I touched back when it all happened. It's not that often I can get Goat so worked up.
                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden

                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                            All right, I will stop now. I was just teasing the Napper man over what a sensitive nerve I touched back when it all happened. It's not that often I can get Goat so worked up.
                            as long as it gives 'napper an excuse to work boobs into a post it's worth it.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                              I think that I thought the same thing Napper did. I just didn't express it the way he did...
                              Can anybody express anything like Napper?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                                If he doesn't and Doman walks, that might be the worst thing that could happen to that program right now. Knowing what I know, I really feel like Doman is even more important to BYU football than Bronco is.
                                Out of curiosity, why do you think Doman is such a good coach & more important than Bronco? I'm not dialed in enough to have much of an opinion on the subject.

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