The Independent Expansion Groundswell

[LiveCoug]

This is not playing well on the MWC board:

http://www.mwcboard.com/www/forums/i...howtopic=26294

Can't blame em.. I'm trying to decide if I'm pissed at BYU too...

[ERCougar]

We're idiots if we move to a Fresno and Nevada-less WAC. Voice of reason step forward please.

You're talking basketball, right? Fresno and Nevada are not a football draw for me.

[Coach McGuirk]

If BYU leaves, splitting the new MWC tv contract 10 ways is going to be heaps of cash for these schools. Heaps. If BYU stays, then you get to split it 11 ways and most likely not evenly. Either way, what a cluster F.

[ERCougar]

This is not playing well on the MWC board:

http://www.mwcboard.com/www/forums/i...howtopic=26294

Yikes...
We ticked some people off. Most of it's sour grapes, much like how I felt when Utah left. I got over that pretty quickly because it was an obvious decision. It looks like the $5 Million payout has ticked people off, and that will turn out to be a really bad PR move if everyone didn't sign it.

That said, I don't really care if we don't play Fresno or Nevada.

C'mon Benson--invite TCU and BSU follows.

[CardiacCoug]

We're idiots if we move to a Fresno and Nevada-less WAC. Voice of reason step forward please.

Agreed.

I was actually hoping Boise might come back to the WAC -- but the WAC minus Fresno and Nevada is a pretty terrible and far-flung conference.

I kind of like the WCC idea, actually, but BYU would absolutely dominate that conference in most sports -- not sure if all the WCC schools would go for that.

[ERCougar]

Agreed.

I was actually hoping Boise might come back to the WAC -- but the WAC minus Fresno and Nevada is a pretty terrible and far-flung conference.

I kind of like the WCC idea, actually, but BYU would absolutely dominate that conference in most sports -- not sure if all the WCC schools would go for that.

The commissioner is already welcoming them. You can bet he has a pulse on what the members think of the idea.

[CardiacCoug]

You're talking basketball, right? Fresno and Nevada are not a football draw for me.

Uhhh...... You are aware that BYU was never planning on joining the WAC for football, right?

[ERCougar]

Uhhh...... You are aware that BYU was never planning on joining the WAC for football, right?

Rumor is that they're scheduling a few WAC games every year as part of the deal. I wasn't salivating over Fresno or Nevada anyway.

USU, Hawaii, and two others. Dream would be BSU and TCU.

[landpoke]

Can someone explain to me the logic behind Boise going back to the WAC? Even with the recent defections the MWC is still a better football conference.

[SteelBlue]

Are the Fresno and Nevada invites conditional? Do they apply only in the event of BYU departing?

[CardiacCoug]

Can someone explain to me the logic behind Boise going back to the WAC? Even with the recent defections the MWC is still a better football conference.

I agree that the MWC is a better football conference, but the MWC minus BYU and Utah isn't exactly what Boise anticipated when they made the move. The automatic BCS bid for the MWC is out the window, so why not stay in the WAC where the chance to go undefeated is a lot better?

[OrangeUte]

Are the Fresno and Nevada invites conditional? Do they apply only in the event of BYU departing?

http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/08/18/2045731/fresno-state-to-join-mwc.html

according to the 3:56 entry, it was independent of byu leaving the mwc.

[USUC]

Star Telegram reporter tweeted some remarks TCU's Gary Patterson made today about the situation:

http://twitter.com/@engeljen

(Sorry, I'm not that smart and can't figure out how to embed it)

[landpoke]

I agree that the MWC is a better football conference, but the MWC minus BYU and Utah isn't exactly what Boise anticipated when they made the move. The automatic BCS bid for the MWC is out the window, so why not stay in the WAC where the chance to go undefeated is a lot better?

I get the impression Boise doesn't think that way. Plus the rap against them is always, fairly or unfairly, that they play in a weak conference. Boise running the MWC (even sans Utah and BYU) is much more impressive than Boise running the WAC.

[statman]

I'm worried about hoops and football long term...

What will attendence look like a couple years down the road? Will the fans come to the MC for games against teams that we have no relationship with (besides USU)? WCC won't bring the people....

Scary.

Like the MWC brings anyone to the MC for games? What games have you been watching...