The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[snowcat]

Andy Katz says it is not over yet:

"There is strong interest within the leadership of Oklahoma about the Pac-12, really strong, but to characterize it as already (having) been done, well, that's going too far," said the source. "It is fair to say there is strong interest, but that doesn't mean the Big 12 is not an option anymore. The concern is long-term stability."

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/...king-stability

[Omaha 680]

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[Paperback Writer]

Unless they think they can't trust Texas to stay.

That's what I think it comes down to. OU doesn't trust Texas to remain in the Big 12. And the only thing that makes sense to me is that OU is concerned that UT will join the Big Ten along with Notre Dame at some point in the future.

[Sizzle]

It is impossible to remain objective and deny admission to those three teams. I would move TCU from the following list to this list.

The only reason why TCU isn't in that list is the same reason why TCU isn't already in the Big 12. I'm not sure Texas/Baylor/Tech want another Texas school sharing their pie, especially from the stronghold of Dallas. If they can weaken the Big East, which in turn weakens TCU another in-state team, I think they do it. They look to add TCU only if that is something that adds significant stability to the conference. But as far as Texas and the rest of the Big 12 schools are concerned, if they can minimize TCU, that is in their best interests.

AFA could and probably should go independent. They already have a solid template with Navy and Army. They have significantly different goals than all other D-1 football schools.

You know, this has me wondering if the Superconferences thing goes through, if maybe some of the schools like Air Force, Army, Navy, Notre Dame, BYU, Baylor and maybe even a Boston College, schools with similar values and missions, look to band together and not become a conference but have a loose agreement in terms of scheduling as independents, especially on the back half of the season. I hope it doesn't, because I don't think that ultimately that is good for college football.

[Cougarmandias]

FWIW, its probably illegal for the OU Regents to email around and come to an informal consensus before their actual meeting. Doesn't mean it won't happen . . .

One more thing to add here.

We are told OU's regents are going to vote to go to the PAC-12.

We are also told they haven't met yet and wont for two weeks.

Who the hell is the source on the first? I can't predict how the board and shareholders of a company will vote on all but the most obvious things. Big ones? Who knows.

Did the source do a phone poll?

And if they have already decided, why do they need the fucking meeting? They can do that over email probably.

I call bullshit on anything more than they are looking at it.

[Pheidippides]

FWIW, its probably illegal for the OU Regents to email around and come to an informal consensus before their actual meeting. Doesn't mean it won't happen . . .

Yeah, I'm calling super bullshit on that one. That implies the regents can't talk to one another.

[creekster]

Yeah, I'm calling super bullshit on that one. That implies the regents can't talk to one another.

If a public school is subject to the pertinent sunshine statute and the regents meeting is public then it would be illegal for them to do that.

[Pheidippides]

If a public school is subject to the pertinent sunshine statute and the regents meeting is public then it would be illegal for them to do that.

So I may only call single bullshit. It still backs up my point, which is that the regents haven't decided a damn thing.

[snowcat]

What a totally dysfunctional league we're hopefully joining.

Agreed.

[PolyCougar]

That's what I think it comes down to. OU doesn't trust Texas to remain in the Big 12. And the only thing that makes sense to me is that OU is concerned that UT will join the Big Ten along with Notre Dame at some point in the future.

I think that's a real fear for OU, suddenly having to go get the snot beat out of them in the SEC. Texas would fit nicely in the Big 10, and honestly I'd get a kick out of watching those games. It'd be old school teams. (Side note: next time Michigan wants to wear throwback jerseys like they did against Notre Dame, I wanna see leather helmets.)

As for Oklahoma... are they still mad that we hurt Sam Bradford? If that's whats going on, can we send Coleby Clawson to Norman so he can say he's sorry... will that help?

[Uncle Ted]

SoonerScoop is reporting...

SoonerScoop SoonerScoop.com
Yet another source tells SoonerScoop OU intends to join the Pac-12. Looking like Mon. could be official withdrawal from conf. Still issues.
1 hour ago

[NorthwestUteFan]

I hope it doesn't, because I don't think that ultimately that is good for college football.

Do you really believe that four 16-team SuperConferences will be better?
The only reason I will back 16-team conferences is because the numbers 'make sense' for the playoff system that will never happen.

But on the other hand, what if some of the cast-offs get together and start their own new leagues? If anchor schools like the Academies, ND, BC, etc, get together and pick off a few of the on-the-fringes teams (Boise State, Mizzou, TCU, maybe raid the ACC, whatever) perhaps they would be more attractive to TV networks than some of the internally topsy-turvy existing conferences.

[NorthwestUteFan]

As for Oklahoma... are they still mad that we hurt Sam Bradford? If that's whats going on, can we send Coleby Clawson to Norman so he can say he's sorry... will that help?

I recall hearing complaints over Ryan Hancock for several years after Cedric Crawford hit him. You guys have a few years to go yet.

[PolyCougar]

SoonerScoop is reporting...

Man Uncle Ted... I used to always look forward to your links. Now I'm scared to death of them.

[PolyCougar]

I recall hearing complaints over Ryan Hancock for several years after Cedric Crawford hit him. You guys have a few years to go yet.

I always wondered why the name Cedric was a swear word to my Dad.