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  • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
    FYI, softball is not currently a capital-O Olympic sport.
    I would imagine the vast majority of female students at BYU aren't part of the big O club. Their husbands/ bf () have spent too much time playing as an independent.

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    • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      outside of the NCAA moving the day of the mens basketball championship game to a Monday and BYU dictating scheduling for an aggregate of maybe 25-30 teams in the WAC and the MWC (including Utah) for decades, you may have a point that BYU is in no position of power on this issue!
      BYU was the big fish in the little MWC and WAC conferences, so it was in position to dictate the scheduling. However, BYU would be a little fish in the big Big12 pond.
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      • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        FYI, softball is not currently a capital-O Olympic sport.
        Yeah, I think they dropped it an Olympics or two ago because the US dominated too much. But it's irrelevant for the sake of this discussion. When talking about the NCAA, calling the non-rev sports "olympic" sports is standard usage of that term.

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        • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
          BYU was the big fish in the little MWC and WAC conferences, so it was in position to dictate the scheduling. However, BYU would be a little fish in the big Big12 pond.
          Rock-solid reasoning on display here, folks.
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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            You keep repeating that as an article of faith while ignoring the reasoned explanations as to why it is highly unlikely that it would be any kind of deal killer. Whatever, I guess.
            Who decides that the explanation as to why it would be unlikely is reasoned? Perhaps those explanations are articles of faith as well, no?
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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Rock-solid reasoning on display here, folks.
              Care to dispute, rather than mock my argument?
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              • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                Care to dispute, rather than mock my argument?
                If they want BYU in football or basketball, they won't care to make a few minor scheduling changes in a few sports that don't bring in revenue. If they don't want BYU football it doesn't matter anyway. If they do want BYU football, it doesn't matter anyway because they'll choose to figure it out. WCC teams still play on Sunday. They just don't when they play against BYU. It's not that big of a deal.
                Last edited by BlueK; 10-29-2015, 11:03 AM.

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                • You are claiming that non revenue sports that happen to play some games on Sunday will be a significant factor in determining if the Big 12 will make a decision on conference expansion (driven by football) with hundreds of million dollars at stake? Makes perfect sense to me!
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                  • Look, I'm just calling like I see it. Nobody needs to agree with me. If I'm wrong, I'll willingly eat crow.
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                    • You will certainly know if you are wrong if BYU gets in, but how will you know if you are right if they don't? If BYU does not get in they will likely not talk about the reasons. There are plenty of reasons BYU might not get in and all of them have to do with football. If we don't get in SU will will point to icky CULTure, you will point to Sunday play, but what it really comes down to is if BYU is more attractive in football than its counterparts.
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                      • Dennis Dodd sez: B12 in trub again this season

                        http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...-go-undefeated

                        The good news: In the last week of October, the Big 12 is one of three conferences with three undefeated teams. (The Big Ten and AAC are the other two.) The Big 12 is also the only league with two teams in the top five.The less-than-good news: The Big 12's round-robin schedule means only one among TCU, Baylor and Oklahoma State will come out unscathed. Only one unbeaten team can come out of the Big Ten and American, but those schools will each have the added boost of a conference championship game.
                        Now the bad news: The Frogs, Bears and Cowboys could beat each other, each finishing 11-1.
                        Meanwhile, a standing “composition committee” evaluating the worth of expansion updated the league CEOs Monday on its progress. The Big 12 isn't about to expand (at all), but I can't think of another league with a composition committee.
                        This is one is composed of Oklahoma president David Boren, Baylor president Kenneth Starr and West Virginia president Gordon Gee. Boren is in favor of expanding to 12 teams. West Virginia would love a travel partner to keep from jetting almost 1,000 miles to its nearest conference rival. Baylor is in favor of Baylor; the school was scared sick in the last round of realignment it was going to wind up in Conference USA.
                        Also, everyone still blames Texas

                        “I think there is still going to be instability as long as the Big 12 remains what it is,” Missouri chancellor, R. Bowen Loftin told CBS Sports. “It's not built around the right geography, or the right alignments.”Loftin, who oversaw Texas A&M's transition from the Big 12 to the SEC, added, “Texas, they still believe they can be independent. Maybe they can be. They have all the wealth there.”
                        Loftin leveled a final blast: “The Big 12 has to figure out a way to become a cohesive conference in order to survive. Otherwise they're going to wind up with the Larry Scott Division of four, 16-team conferences.”
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                          • Last edited by TripletDaddy; 10-29-2015, 11:39 AM.
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                            • Sorry, IPU. I agree with majority on this issue: weird rules about keeping Sunday pure won't keep BYU outside of the BIG12.

                              The big thing keeping BYU out of the BIG12 is the sorry state of the women's gymnastics "program."

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