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  • lambdacoug
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 3981

    #15061
    Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    What is a "quality control coach"?
    Going out on a limb here, but my guess is someone that coaches people in quality control.
    Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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    • Uncle Ted
      The Big 12 money shot.
      • Apr 2010
      • 28853

      #15062
      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      Texas band director Rob Carnochan just quit to take another job (at Miami) after Patterson cut $250,000 out of the band budget last year, resulting in less travel for the full band and a first-ever $132 fee charged to members to pay for their own practice and travel gear.


      The full Texas band used to go to every in-state football game. But under Patterson, the full band no longer goes to Texas Tech, a longstanding rival of the Texas band. UT now sends only a “pep band” of section leaders. In 2015-16, the full band will go to the Texas-OU game and to either TCU or Baylor – but not both.
      Hopefully they go to the Baylor game so there will be more tickets to the TCU game.
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      • Paperback Writer
        Signature won a Pulitzer
        • Nov 2010
        • 5211

        #15063
        Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
        What is a "quality control coach"?
        It's a way for coaching staffs to supplement the NCAA rule of 9 ACs and 2 GAs (graduate assistants or general authorities). It's also a way for young coaches to break into the coaching profession if they can't get a GA position or want to get paid unlike a GA (wait a minute LDS GAs get paid-now I'm confused). But quality control staff can't directly coach players or review film with players or the school gets in trouble with the NCAA like what happened at Michigan. They typically break down film of the team or of the opponent, determine play calling tendencies, help with planning practices, make sure players attend class, etc. Some programs have other names for quality control coaches like staff interns which seems a better description, imo, since they can't actually coach.
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        • wapiti
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 2064

          #15064
          The Oklahoman is the number one source for Oklahoma City breaking news, politics, business, sports, entertainment and obituaries.


          The OU President is firmly in favor of expansion. He says if they add two schools the primary media contract automatically increases in value to pay for the new additions.

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          • lambdacoug
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 3981

            #15065
            Originally posted by wapiti View Post
            http://newsok.com/boren-big-12-shoul...rticle/5429694

            The OU President is firmly in favor of expansion. He says if they add two schools the primary media contract automatically increases in value to pay for the new additions.
            Is this the big news TuxedoYoda, or someone on twitter, was telling us we'd get by the end of June?
            Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
            - Howard Aiken

            Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
            - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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            • TripletDaddy
              sweet triple
              • Nov 2008
              • 58186

              #15066
              Bowlsby sez: huh? first ive heard of this...



              “We talk about membership at every meeting,” Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said Wednesday afternoon. “I think our presidents individually have their own opinions on things. President Boren expressed his today.
              “I have not got the indication that the majority of our presidents feel that way. I get the feeling that nothing has changed since we last discussed it.”
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              • Omaha 680
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 11167

                #15067
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                Bowlsby sez: huh? first ive heard of this...

                http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews....xpansion.html/
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                • SandYFan
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 754

                  #15068
                  We need to start a betting pool on how long this thread will last. Into 2020? 2040? Will football as we know it even be around then?

                  Could BYU fans be talking about getting into the Big 12 until the end of football?

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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #15069
                    Cincinnati coach Tuberville tries to win favor with B12...by predicting its demise

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                    • TripletDaddy
                      sweet triple
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 58186

                      #15070
                      Forget it, not happening



                      BYU would get eyeballs but doesn’t play on Sundays. Cincinnati football is an afterthought in a pro-sports town. Central Florida has a rapidly growing alumni base and is well situated in a recruiting hotbed but is far from a national draw. Boise State has a good program but a tiny TV market. Houston? The Texas schools don’t want to share Texas. Memphis? The thought alone of Memphis upsetting Texas in the Big 12 title game — should they ever make up their mind about having one — sends everyone involved with the conference to their fainting couchesSo Boren is out on an island as far as his fellow Big 12 presidents are concerned (except for maybe West Virginia, which would like somebody —anybody — that isn’t a four-hour plane ride away). “It’s my sense that the majority are either unsure or not supportive of expansion at this point,”Bowlsby told CBSSports.com on Thursday.
                      At least until 2027, when the ACC grant-of-rights deal ends and all hell breaks loose again.
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                      • TripletDaddy
                        sweet triple
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 58186

                        #15071
                        So you're telling me there's a chance.....



                        “The elephant in the room remains the network south of us that has struggled and has in a way as long as it’s there,” Boren said, referring to the LHN. “And we have done quite well with our network and if anything ever changed, it has value to it which we see. But someday, maybe we’ll get past that other problem as well. It’s a problem.”And there you have it. Again.
                        … other problem…
                        … a problem…
                        Austin, we have a problem.
                        Once the LHN “problem” is resolved — and it’s been a problem in the minds of most non-UT folks in the conference since its inception, including the commissioner — the Big 12 might be able to get its actual membership number to match its name. But getting past that “problem” could prove to be the biggest hurdle of all, even given the OU president’s revenue revelations.
                        Still, Boren’s quotes stating that the TV revenue would grow with additions, not the same revenue split 12 ways instead of 10, is significant news.
                        In other words, BYU — and some current AAC/Conference USA schools — we’re telling you there’s a chance
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                        • DrumNFeather
                          Invisible Swordsman
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 8854

                          #15072
                          Here you go, friends: http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...podcast-062615
                          "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                          Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #15073
                            Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                            didnt care for this link, sorry.
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                            • DrumNFeather
                              Invisible Swordsman
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 8854

                              #15074
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              didnt care for this link, sorry.
                              Well it does a picture of Hill...that has to be a good sign.
                              "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                              Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                              • TripletDaddy
                                sweet triple
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 58186

                                #15075
                                Math don't lie



                                A few things that could offset that:
                                Add those up, and all 12 Big 12 schools could break even at worst.
                                And if that's not enough to offset, would any remaining cost be worth it to open up two recruiting markets, add a conference championship without needing NCAA rule changes, expand the brand footprint, and possibly pick up two decent TV markets?
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