The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[EuropeanFootballMale]

The program will die like it died when it didn't get into the B12 last time, or when it didn't get into the P12, etc.

You are correct. That is when the dying started. We had a shot at a cure and said no thanks. I don't think BYU wants a real sports program.

[Pheidippides]

Isn't that guy whitney64?

Yup.

[USUC]

Because there was always hope of a brighter future by continuing to outperform your peers. I still think we're in but if you're speaking to the others on the suicide hotline this just confirms we go from Teir 2 to Austin Peay.

Am I reading you right that you still think BYU is in? I wish I could have some of what your drinking... wait I don't, This needs to come off quick like a band-aid. I hope the school makes statements quick and puts the fan base out of its misery regarding this issue. This has not been a fun year.

[Uncle Ted]

Chip Brown Big 12 update...

Here's where we stand right now.

TCU will join the Big 12 and will probably have to pay less than the $5 million penalty to get out of its commitment to the Big East, sources said. TCU will begin play in the Big 12 in 2012-13.

If Missouri stays in the Big 12, the league would be at 10. And there are voices (and Texas is one of them) who want the conference to remain at 10. The pros would be no conference championship game, so an easier path to the BCS and the BCS national title game.

Having 10 schools would also allow the TV partners to keep paying the B12 what it's currently paying them (roughly $18 million per school next year - unless the ABC/ESPN deal, which runs through 2015-16, gets redone, which it probably will).

If the Big 12 grows to 12 with Missouri still in the league, Louisville and West Virginia would be the most likely candidates at the current time, sources said. But the question is if the TV partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox) would increase the TV revenue enough to ensure the 12 schools would each make at least $18 million.

If Missouri comes out of the league, and the B12 wants to grow to 12, the additions would probably be Louisville, West Virginia and either Cincinnati or BYU.

If Missouri comes out of the league, and the Big 12 wants to stay at 10, the choice would be either Louisville or West Virginia, according to sources.

And as the Big East destabilizes, Texas is pushing for Notre Dame to move its "other" sports into the Big 12. And UT seems to think it can/will happen.

Sources close to the situation say the SEC interest is split between Missouri and Virginia Tech.

[San Juan Sun]

Yup.

Awesome.

I love Whitney twitter trolling the big names, and lecturing them about appropriate twitter etiquette.

[WashingtonCoug]

This feels exactly like the day the Mayor of Seattle gave in to Clay Bennett and settled out of court. The Sonics were gone. It was something that seemed so unbelievable. I may be too over dramatic, but this feels the same way. Sure there's some hope out there that things will work out, but in the end it's all just false hopes.

[Maximus]

Prediction: When tom says something he will basically say we never had an invite, which is technically true but irrelevant and all of the hard liners will act like everything is then okay.

[Goatnapper'96]

Am I reading you right that you still think BYU is in? I wish I could have some of what your drinking... wait I don't, This needs to come off quick like a band-aid. I hope the school makes statements quick and puts the fan base out of its misery regarding this issue. This has not been a fun year.

I am proud to be a mormon today, BYU kept its promise to the WCC and quite honestly I watched a Texas-OU game on ESPN Classic from the late 70's and I am not sure I am real comfortable with having the Lord's University compete in the same conference as those low-lifes that invented rip away jerseys.

I think we should expect a higher level of character and that is why I am pleased that BYU is standing by its faith based brethren in the WCC!

[Pheidippides]

Awesome.

I love Whitney twitter trolling the big names, and lecturing them about appropriate twitter etiquette.

In addition to the pretty tasteless use of a Haun's Mill comparison, I am shocked that he has the ability to say anything in 140 characters.

[USUC]

Chip Brown Big 12 update...

I'm just heading in to work for a late shift tonight. I hope before I go to bed that all hope of a BYU invite has been quashed. Chip needs to get the scoop on this ASAP. I seriously need closer on this.

[Jacob]

Interesting Twitter feed to watch as these events unfold.

http://twitter.com/#!/StadiumHopper

Interesting because of how wrong he is? Here are a few tweets from this morning:

StadiumHopper LDeaux
@wilnerhotline ~ I doubt TCU has 7 votes (none in Texas), maybe none in Kansas or Iowa.
5 hours ago

StadiumHopper LDeaux
@wilnerhotline - Ten maybe, TCU, very unlikely. Wonder if aTm still gets to vote, then 8 votes needed, technically 7 w/o aTm (75% min)

[Goatnapper'96]

Prediction: When tom says something he will basically say we never had an invite, which is technically true but irrelevant and all of the hard liners will act like everything is then okay.

No, he will look you in the eye and tell you that he forgot to have them sign the contract. They used a sticky and removed the sticky when they did an evil "muahaha..muahahaha we wanted TCU all along...you people were too slow..muahahaha..." Then he will probably cancel all competitive sports and announce they are turning the IPF into a memorial for BYU's proud competitive clogging tradition!

[jay santos]

I am proud to be a mormon today, BYU kept its promise to the WCC and quite honestly I watched a Texas-OU game on ESPN Classic from the late 70's and I am not sure I am real comfortable with having the Lord's University compete in the same conference as those low-lifes that invented rip away jerseys.

I think we should expect a higher level of character and that is why I am pleased that BYU is standing by its faith based brethren in the WCC!

We stand for something higher. Independence fits us just right.

[Jacob]

Prediction: When tom says something he will basically say we never had an invite, which is technically true but irrelevant and all of the hard liners will act like everything is then okay.

How can you be so sure?

[YOhio]

Jay Drew tweets:

No surprise. BYU Assoc. AD Tittle sez on TCU/Big 12: "Nothing has changed in our approach since we released statement several weeks ago."