The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Coach McGuirk]

Hold your horses.

Tennessee AD sez: SEC will expand to 14

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...d-again-092911

Which horses? their taking SMU?

[Hot Lunch]

Which horses? their taking SMU?

They want to increase their Texas footprint.

[dixdog]

I think too many people are convinced BYU to the Big12 is a done deal. I think it is possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen.

[Cougarmandias]

Yep. PAC-12 vs. Big 12 every September, between two schools 40 miles apart. It would be awesome.

Even awesomer in November . . .

[Viking]

Hold your horses.

Tennessee AD sez: SEC will expand to 14

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...d-again-092911

Really? You mean they won't stay at 13?

"The addition of Texas A&M as the SEC's 13th team was a good one, Hart said, but the league's leaders must take their next steps deliberately."

Doesn't sound like anything is being announced for a while.

[Viking]

I think too many people are convinced BYU to the Big12 is a done deal. I think it is possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen.

My dad used to make irrational decisions all the time under the premise of "the spirit" or the like when the rest of us knew he was being stupid. BYU could very easily be stupid in this matter.

[Omaha 680]

Journalism is dead

It’s impossible to tell just who is responsible for what in the middle of so many rumors, but it’s clear the Big 12 has life after Dan Beebe after all. In fact, Chuck Neinas might be the best thing to hit the Big 12 in a long time. With rumors of Missouri staying put in the Big 12 despite some reported overtures or interest from the SEC, now even bigger news comes with the addition of Brigham Young University that some sportswriters wondered about from the beginning.

They actually use BYUdeepthrowt as a source in that story. Also using a a Chris Level tweet (Texas Tech guy). Anyone know anything about him?

[mtnbiker]

I hear ya CJ, I don't get the dribble that comes out of some people's mouth when it come to the rivalry. It is one of the best in the West and a piece of my sports kingdom will die if it does not continue.

Not to be picky, because 'dribble' really describes what comes out of some people's mouths, but the typical word here is 'drivel'. Just trying to be helpful.

[Viking]

I just had my first "real" conversation with a guy deeply connected to BYU, the institution (as opposed to someone focused the athletics). There are rumors that donors are being contacted. Maybe. But not him; hasn't heard a peep...and he "owns" BYU alumni relations along the Pacific coast.

Not saying it's not happening, but if you are hearing from people that major donors are being contacted, I'd guess unless they are Ira Fulton and a few others (i.e., the few "impact" donors), it's highly unlikely to be true.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I just had my first "real" conversation with a guy deeply connected to BYU, the institution (as opposed to someone focused the athletics). There are rumors that donors are being contacted. Maybe. But not him; hasn't heard a peep...and he "owns" BYU alumni relations along the Pacific coast.

Not saying it's not happening, but if you are hearing from people that major donors are being contacted, I'd guess unless they are Ira Fulton and a few others (i.e., the few "impact" donors), it's highly unlikely to be true.

Sadly, Ira Fulton's business went belly up when the real estate market tanked. Bankrupt.

[Paperback Writer]

22 of the 44 kids on UNL's last MNC team....
two deep were partial qualifiers. Look it up. Coaching is fine. But as the Bootlegger's Boy stated on page 69 of his modern day masterpiece, The Bootleggers Boy, "It ain't the xes and the oes, it's the Jimmies and the Joes." There is a reason Doctor Tom Osborne quit coaching shortly after he was cut off from his recruiting base.

That's complete BS and an internet myth on KSU message boards. The last MNC team was 1997 and Nebraska had few if any PQ as they were resricted to one per class in the Big 12. Perhaps you are referring to the 1995 MNC Nebraska team that had 6 PQ on the 2-deep (out of 44). That's a far cry from the 22 you allege. Nebraska also had 3 academic all-Americans on the 1995 2-deep. I can provide a 2-deep depth cart of the 1995 team if you like so you can then point out the 22 PQ.

And UNL has done nothing w/ the Jucos. That's the freaking genius of Bill Snyder. And since KSU has an entire school of Technology devoted to certificates and associates degrees, the Bucktoothed Wizard is in the exact right place for his wizardry amongst the Jucos.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

Nebraska currently has 4 starters that are Juco transfers and 3 are from Kansas JCs. Several more are on the roster.

[Viking]

Sadly, Ira Fulton's business went belly up when the real estate market tanked. Bankrupt.

I had assumed his donations were made on a free and clear basis, but maybe not?

Yikes.

[Green Monstah]

I had assumed his donations were made on a free and clear basis, but maybe not?

Yikes.

I don't know how much, if any, he owns, but Fulton Homes is still in business.

I'm sure he's not in the poor house, but probably not making it rain at ASU and BYU anymore.

[Omaha 680]

I don't know how much, if any, he owns, but Fulton Homes is still in business.

I'm sure he's not in the poor house, but probably not making it rain at ASU and BYU anymore.

Yeah, he and his wife gave away over $250 million to ASU and BYU. I was in the Engineering College at BYU when they named it after him following a large donation. Fulton Homes entered chapter 11 a couple years ago, but I don't know what their prospects are going forward. Ira's mug is still on the website, though.

http://www.fultonhomes.com/

[Uncle Ted]

I just had my first "real" conversation with a guy deeply connected to BYU, the institution (as opposed to someone focused the athletics). There are rumors that donors are being contacted. Maybe. But not him; hasn't heard a peep...and he "owns" BYU alumni relations along the Pacific coast.

Not saying it's not happening, but if you are hearing from people that major donors are being contacted, I'd guess unless they are Ira Fulton and a few others (i.e., the few "impact" donors), it's highly unlikely to be true.

So why would major donors be contacted if BYU was staying independent? To let them know that we are still playing Weber St next year?